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Anyway, I’m not doing anything particularly heroic.

Oh, I think you are. You’re sure doin’ more than I am. I grumble all the time at my mom. She came in today right after I woke up, took over my couch, handed me money to get some Mexican food down the road, and fell asleep. I was mad. Well, not steamin’ mad, but kind of grumblin’ mad. I tell her when the time comes, I’m puttin’ her in a storage garage. Well, I don’t tell her that. But I should. It would make her laugh. :-) Truth is, I don’t have the wherewithal to take care of her, and she’s acting like she needs to be taken care of, even though she’s only 60, and can certainly handle most things on her own. I think what you’re doin’ takes a lot of strength, and I’m impressed by what you’ve managed to accomplish. (I was reading about caretakers in the doctor’s office, so I’m a bit of an expert now.) Anyway, hope it cools down over there, and hope you’re well, Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedburg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just finished washing her back, and shampooing/conditioning her hair. We talked about how her mother taught her how to bathe me when I was a newborn, and I teased her about using enough soap on her neck. <snip Dear D, I watched my MIL go through that a few years ago with both parents.  Paw Paw and Memaw lived well into their 90’s and had a full productive life until around their late 80’s.  Paw Paw was first.  There are 3 daughters and one son.  The daughters joined forces and they bathed him, clothed him and helped take care of him.  (They were married 70 years)  I will never forget my MIL telling me about the first  time she had to bathe her daddy.  She cried and it was upsetting to her and she is one of the strongest people I know.  He was a very distinguisted gentleman, one of the very few you see anymore.  The daughters were wonderful taking care of him and helping Memaw who was in the early stages of Alzheimer’s at the time.  The son did what he could.  Once Paw Paw passed away we all had Memaw to care for and help.  She couldn’t live alone anymore.  The children all took turns having her for a week at a time.  It was hard on them but my MIL said it was also rewarding to be able to pay back all of the love their parents had given them many years ago. Memaw  is gone now, also.  We always try to celebrate how wonderful they were and ALIVE and young for so long.  I am glad your mom has a sense of humor, or at least it sounds that way if she chuckled about the role reversal.  I admire you, D, because I just don’t know how I could do what you are doing.  I have a weak stomach about that sort of thing.  My mom is fairly young, nearly 63, but I have already told my sisters that I am not sure how I will handle  that stage.  My MIL says eventually you get used to it.  I don’t know.  I guess you cross that path when you get there.  Dad died without needing that sort of care.  He was just fine before the surgery that gave him blood poisoning and killed him. (Broken foot, of all things) My inlaws are older than my mom but both are very healthy at this point, thank God.  I would call her Miss Speed Demon.  She seems like she has ADHD! I really think she does.  I can be talking to her, and this has gone on for over 25 years, and she will just start talking about something else like I wasn’t saying anything.  Cannot be still, never could.  Always needing something to do.  I told her she should ask her doc about it.  She just laughed.  Well, if my FIL can stand it, I guess I can at this point.  :) You are a good person, D, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise and don’t believe them if they do.  You have a tough job, yet  a loving mother. The one thing that bothers me at times about children caring for their elderly parents, some tell all of the details of the care to whoever will listen.  I have seen  that with my MIL.  I know she just needed to talk but I believe in always upholding a person’s dignity and keeping many things private.  That’s just me, I guess.  I have never read anything that would degrade your mother.  You are respectful, and I totally respect that. Have a good day tomorrow.  I hope you are feeling better. Love, Vicki I think it’s easier to take care of a parent if their infirmities come on gradually, as Mom’s have. I’m not sure how I could have coped if she’d suddenly gone from dynamic to invalid status. She’s 84 now.  She can still walk using her walker, although we take the push chair when we know the walk will be too long for her minimal stamina. She feeds herself and dresses herself (with my assistance on the bra-hooking operation <lol), and handles the toilet by herself. Her mind is still pretty sharp, although I can see a little increased mental confusion.  It’s minor and infrequent, so I’m not freaking out about possible Alzheimers yet. What I do for her is mostly a host of small things — reaching things she can’t bend to get, reading small print for her, opening packages and jars, preparing meals (she can’t stand up long enough to cook), and picking up things she’s dropped.  And her bath. She can’t keep her arms raised up long enough to shampoo, and she can’t handle the back-brush anymore, so I do her hair and wash her back.  I also fix the cable when she pushes the wrong buttons on the remote, and I remind her about taking her Tylenol before bed so she won’t wake up in the night with arthritic pains.  I drive her to all her appointments, push the chair if we take it. I call in her prescriptions and pick them up.  Any phone call requiring things like "press one to…" I do, because she gets a little panicky and pushes the wrong buttons.  I buy large-print books for her because her eyesight is too weak for glasses to help now. I rub Tiger Balm on her shoulders and neck when the arthritis flares up there. She does have Parkinson’s Disease.  The medication, Sinemet, is still controlling most of the symptoms.  Parkinson’s came on rather late in her life, so chances are she won’t progress to the stage when the meds no longer work.  I dearly hope that’s the case. If the disease does progress, her mind will stay clear, but her body will not work, and she will need to be lifted and cleaned and fed and all those things. She won’t be able to communicate verbally. She will feel humiliated at being a burden, and it will be hard on me physically and emotionally.  We’ve talked about the possibility that she will reach that stage, and she wants me to get someone to take care of her.  I will do it as long as I am able, but there may come a time when I have to have a professional here.  I can’t abide the thought of her in a nursing home — the good ones are way beyond our means, and the rest are just horrible. I’ve seen a few, and I’ll keep her at home, thank you. Anyway, I’m not doing anything particularly heroic. I just hope heroism isn’t going to be required of me in the future.  I’m afraid of failing her. Welllllllll that went on a little too long <LOL Today was her and Dad’s wedding anniversary, so she was a little melancholy today. I got her to laugh a couple of times, so maybe that helped. Dad died in 1981 and we both miss him still. Okay, enough from me for now. Love Deirdre

Deirdre, I think "heroism" is just some subjective term.. nothing anyone ever labels themselves, but something other people do consider heroic.  I know.. I’ve done things and people gasp in awe of me.. and I’m like, "huh?".. Sweetie.. you’d do it whether it came on fast or slow. Easier.. there is no easy way, and I think I speak with authority on that.  There is nothing easy about it, no matter how it happens.  But I do know that you are blessed to have memories like this.  Right now, it’s hard and bittersweet and a mixture of so many feelings and thoughts.. later.. it will just be things you are really glad you did. You’ll be thankful you made her life easier and you’ll know that she had you to trust and rely on at a time in her life when she needed you.  Life comes full circle.. and it’s okay.  It really is. It’s how it’s supposed to be.  It is  a difficult realization, but it will just be wisdom someday.. this is how life works. There is beauty in it. I wish I had a daughter. Thank you for sharing. It brought back painful memories.. but also important ones.  You helped me. Love you, Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I just finished washing her back, and shampooing/conditioning her hair. We talked about how her mother taught her how to bathe me when I was a newborn, and I teased her about using enough soap on her neck. There were a couple of little scabs on her scalp from where she scratches too long.  I reminded her not to scratch very long, and she said she tries to catch herself before it bleeds. I came in my room and sat here– my pulse was racing, I was breathing fast and shallowly. I took a half a Klonopin and closed my eyes. I saw a picture of Mom in my mind, only she was baby-size, and she was in a baby’s bath basin, and I wanted to cry because I never wanted to be a mother, yet she’s so precious to me. I am waiting for her to finish — she washes all the rest of her by herself. (a couple of minutes later) She called me in to move the shampoo and conditioner bottles so she could get off her bath bench without knocking them over. I waited in the hall while she got her land legs back and came out, then I went in and turned off the water, wrung out the foam piece we put on the floor (to catch all the sprays and spills), rinsed her washcloth in cold water and wrung it well (her hands are too weak to wring anything), and hung it to dry, and I picked up the soap she apologized for dropping. And I kept seeing her as a little child. It’s beautiful and it’s painful all at the same time. Mostly painful at this moment. In a few minutes, when she’s dressed, I’ll set her hair on those tiny little brush rollers with the pink plastic picks, and we’ll await the grocery delivery together. I hope the Klonopin hurries up because I’m on the edge of crying. Writing about it helps, though. My hands aren’t shaking too bad, just a little.  I’ll be okay in a couple of minutes. I feel terribly old right now. Deirdre — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I just finished washing her back, and shampooing/conditioning her hair. We talked about how her mother taught her how to bathe me when I was a newborn, and I teased her about using enough soap on her neck.

<snip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear D, I watched my MIL go through that a few years ago with both parents.  Paw Paw and Memaw lived well into their 90’s and had a full productive life until around their late 80’s.  Paw Paw was first.  There are 3 daughters and one son.  The daughters joined forces and they bathed him, clothed him and helped take care of him.  (They were married 70 years)  I will never forget my MIL telling me about the first  time she had to bathe her daddy.  She cried and it was upsetting to her and she is one of the strongest people I know.  He was a very distinguisted gentleman, one of the very few you see anymore.  The daughters were wonderful taking care of him and helping Memaw who was in the early stages of Alzheimer’s at the time.  The son did what he could.  Once Paw Paw passed away we all had Memaw to care for and help.  She couldn’t live alone anymore.  The children all took turns having her for a week at a time.  It was hard on them but my MIL said it was also rewarding to be able to pay back all of the love their parents had given them many years ago. Memaw  is gone now, also.  We always try to celebrate how wonderful they were and ALIVE and young for so long.  I am glad your mom has a sense of humor, or at least it sounds that way if she chuckled about the role reversal.  I admire you, D, because I just don’t know how I could do what you are doing.  I have a weak stomach about that sort of thing.  My mom is fairly young, nearly 63, but I have already told my sisters that I am not sure how I will handle  that stage.  My MIL says eventually you get used to it.  I don’t know.  I guess you cross that path when you get there.  Dad died without needing that sort of care.  He was just fine before the surgery that gave him blood poisoning and killed him. (Broken foot, of all things) My inlaws are older than my mom but both are very healthy at this point, thank God.  I would call her Miss Speed Demon.  She seems like she has ADHD! I really think she does.  I can be talking to her, and this has gone on for over 25 years, and she will just start talking about something else like I wasn’t saying anything.  Cannot be still, never could.  Always needing something to do.  I told her she should ask her doc about it.  She just laughed.  Well, if my FIL can stand it, I guess I can at this point.  :) You are a good person, D, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise and don’t believe them if they do.  You have a tough job, yet  a loving mother. The one thing that bothers me at times about children caring for their elderly parents, some tell all of the details of the care to whoever will listen.  I have seen  that with my MIL.  I know she just needed to talk but I believe in always upholding a person’s dignity and keeping many things private.  That’s just me, I guess.  I have never read anything that would degrade your mother.  You are respectful, and I totally respect that. Have a good day tomorrow.  I hope you are feeling better. Love, Vicki

I think it’s easier to take care of a parent if their infirmities come on gradually, as Mom’s have. I’m not sure how I could have coped if she’d suddenly gone from dynamic to invalid status. She’s 84 now.  She can still walk using her walker, although we take the push chair when we know the walk will be too long for her minimal stamina. She feeds herself and dresses herself (with my assistance on the bra-hooking operation <lol), and handles the toilet by herself. Her mind is still pretty sharp, although I can see a little increased mental confusion.  It’s minor and infrequent, so I’m not freaking out about possible Alzheimers yet. What I do for her is mostly a host of small things — reaching things she can’t bend to get, reading small print for her, opening packages and jars, preparing meals (she can’t stand up long enough to cook), and picking up things she’s dropped.  And her bath. She can’t keep her arms raised up long enough to shampoo, and she can’t handle the back-brush anymore, so I do her hair and wash her back.  I also fix the cable when she pushes the wrong buttons on the remote, and I remind her about taking her Tylenol before bed so she won’t wake up in the night with arthritic pains.  I drive her to all her appointments, push the chair if we take it. I call in her prescriptions and pick them up.  Any phone call requiring things like "press one to…" I do, because she gets a little panicky and pushes the wrong buttons.  I buy large-print books for her because her eyesight is too weak for glasses to help now. I rub Tiger Balm on her shoulders and neck when the arthritis flares up there. She does have Parkinson’s Disease.  The medication, Sinemet, is still controlling most of the symptoms.  Parkinson’s came on rather late in her life, so chances are she won’t progress to the stage when the meds no longer work.  I dearly hope that’s the case. If the disease does progress, her mind will stay clear, but her body will not work, and she will need to be lifted and cleaned and fed and all those things. She won’t be able to communicate verbally. She will feel humiliated at being a burden, and it will be hard on me physically and emotionally.  We’ve talked about the possibility that she will reach that stage, and she wants me to get someone to take care of her.  I will do it as long as I am able, but there may come a time when I have to have a professional here.  I can’t abide the thought of her in a nursing home — the good ones are way beyond our means, and the rest are just horrible. I’ve seen a few, and I’ll keep her at home, thank you. Anyway, I’m not doing anything particularly heroic. I just hope heroism isn’t going to be required of me in the future.  I’m afraid of failing her. Welllllllll that went on a little too long <LOL Today was her and Dad’s wedding anniversary, so she was a little melancholy today. I got her to laugh a couple of times, so maybe that helped. Dad died in 1981 and we both miss him still. Okay, enough from me for now. Love Deirdre — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just finished washing her back, and shampooing/conditioning her hair. We talked about how her mother taught her how to bathe me when I was a newborn, and I teased her about using enough soap on her neck. There were a couple of little scabs on her scalp from where she scratches too long.  I reminded her not to scratch very long, and she said she tries to catch herself before it bleeds. I came in my room and sat here– my pulse was racing, I was breathing fast and shallowly. I took a half a Klonopin and closed my eyes. I saw a picture of Mom in my mind, only she was baby-size, and she was in a baby’s bath basin, and I wanted to cry because I never wanted to be a mother, yet she’s so precious to me. I am waiting for her to finish — she washes all the rest of her by herself. (a couple of minutes later) She called me in to move the shampoo and conditioner bottles so she could get off her bath bench without knocking them over. I waited in the hall while she got her land legs back and came out, then I went in and turned off the water, wrung out the foam piece we put on the floor (to catch all the sprays and spills), rinsed her washcloth in cold water and wrung it well (her hands are too weak to wring anything), and hung it to dry, and I picked up the soap she apologized for dropping. And I kept seeing her as a little child. It’s beautiful and it’s painful all at the same time. Mostly painful at this moment. In a few minutes, when she’s dressed, I’ll set her hair on those tiny little brush rollers with the pink plastic picks, and we’ll await the grocery delivery together. I hope the Klonopin hurries up because I’m on the edge of crying. Writing about it helps, though. My hands aren’t shaking too bad, just a little.  I’ll be okay in a couple of minutes. I feel terribly old right now. Deirdre

I have had a lot of trouble with my mother.  She is in a nursing home. If she would have used her head, she would not be there.  The problems she caused have caused my anxiety to wax.  It is funny, I don’t want to share with you the problems I had with her.  I just know that I really go through my mother’s day cards to find something that does not say "Mother, you were always there and you always comforted me, etc, etc, etc.".  In fact, I really hate having to sort mother’s day cards!!!!!!!  I was there at the home yesterday.  When I left, she said "I am really afraid".  What can I do.  Physically, she has everything there that she needs.  She has a son that looks after her.  I will have nobody to look after me.  As I said, I could really go into this.  I don’t want to. I know I have to deal with anxiety that will just not go away.  I live with it the best way I can.  When I have to take a pill go make it go away, I take my pill.  I am not going to display any of the crazyness that I had to observe when I grew up.  Mom set herself up in her position.  I can leave or hang up the phone when I don’t want to deal with it.   Fred — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Deirdre:  I’ve had little time to post lately, with house-buying and house-selling craziness, but wanted to say how touched I was by the post about bathing your mom.  Clearly you are savoring your time with your mother. It’s nice, too, that you had that moment of generation-swap recognition when you nagged her about lathering up.  :-) xxoo Anne — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I hope you are as well as I am well but more well, as well, or something

Well, I’m as well as well can be expected. Or something. :-) Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedburg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I just finished washing her back, and shampooing/conditioning her hair. We talked about how her mother taught her how to bathe me when I was a newborn, and I teased her about using enough soap on her neck. There were a couple of little scabs on her scalp from where she scratches too long.  I reminded her not to scratch very long, and she said she tries to catch herself before it bleeds. I came in my room and sat here– my pulse was racing, I was breathing fast and shallowly. I took a half a Klonopin and closed my eyes. I saw a picture of Mom in my mind, only she was baby-size, and she was in a baby’s bath basin, and I wanted to cry because I never wanted to be a mother, yet she’s so precious to me. I am waiting for her to finish — she washes all the rest of her by herself. (a couple of minutes later) She called me in to move the shampoo and conditioner bottles so she could get off her bath bench without knocking them over. I waited in the hall while she got her land legs back and came out, then I went in and turned off the water, wrung out the foam piece we put on the floor (to catch all the sprays and spills), rinsed her washcloth in cold water and wrung it well (her hands are too weak to wring anything), and hung it to dry, and I picked up the soap she apologized for dropping. And I kept seeing her as a little child. It’s beautiful and it’s painful all at the same time. Mostly painful at this moment. In a few minutes, when she’s dressed, I’ll set her hair on those tiny little brush rollers with the pink plastic picks, and we’ll await the grocery delivery together. I hope the Klonopin hurries up because I’m on the edge of crying. Writing about it helps, though. My hands aren’t shaking too bad, just a little. I’ll be okay in a couple of minutes. I feel terribly old right now. Deirdre

Dear D, I watched my MIL go through that a few years ago with both parents.  Paw Paw and Memaw lived well into their 90’s and had a full productive life until around their late 80’s.  Paw Paw was first.  There are 3 daughters and one son.  The daughters joined forces and they bathed him, clothed him and helped take care of him.  (They were married 70 years)  I will never forget my MIL telling me about the first  time she had to bathe her daddy.  She cried and it was upsetting to her and she is one of the strongest people I know.  He was a very distinguisted gentleman, one of the very few you see anymore.  The daughters were wonderful taking care of him and helping Memaw who was in the early stages of Alzheimer’s at the time.  The son did what he could.  Once Paw Paw passed away we all had Memaw to care for and help.  She couldn’t live alone anymore.  The children all took turns having her for a week at a time.  It was hard on them but my MIL said it was also rewarding to be able to pay back all of the love their parents had given them many years ago. Memaw  is gone now, also.  We always try to celebrate how wonderful they were and ALIVE and young for so long.  I am glad your mom has a sense of humor, or at least it sounds that way if she chuckled about the role reversal.  I admire you, D, because I just don’t know how I could do what you are doing.  I have a weak stomach about that sort of thing.  My mom is fairly young, nearly 63, but I have already told my sisters that I am not sure how I will handle  that stage.  My MIL says eventually you get used to it.  I don’t know.  I guess you cross that path when you get there.  Dad died without needing that sort of care.  He was just fine before the surgery that gave him blood poisoning and killed him. (Broken foot, of all things) My inlaws are older than my mom but both are very healthy at this point, thank God.  I would call her Miss Speed Demon.  She seems like she has ADHD! I really think she does.  I can be talking to her, and this has gone on for over 25 years, and she will just start talking about something else like I wasn’t saying anything.  Cannot be still, never could.  Always needing something to do.  I told her she should ask her doc about it.  She just laughed.  Well, if my FIL can stand it, I guess I can at this point.  :) You are a good person, D, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise and don’t believe them if they do.  You have a tough job, yet  a loving mother. The one thing that bothers me at times about children caring for their elderly parents, some tell all of the details of the care to whoever will listen.  I have seen  that with my MIL.  I know she just needed to talk but I believe in always upholding a person’s dignity and keeping many things private.  That’s just me, I guess.  I have never read anything that would degrade your mother.  You are respectful, and I totally respect that. Have a good day tomorrow.  I hope you are feeling better. Love, Vicki — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I feel terribly old right now. Deirdre, I think you’re doing a wonderful thing for your mom, and it *is* tough … but you’re making it through, and helping out in the process. Give yourself the credit you deserve. Oh, and don’t forget to laugh sometimes. It really helps. (It might not at *this* moment, but, you know, when you’re feeling a little bit better.) Hope you’re well, Ian

Thank you, my friend. I *do* know I’m doing a good thing. And I manage to laugh at least once a day, even if I have to wake Bert up from a sound sleep to do it. <lol I just have this nagging little wish that this weren’t so emotionally taxing. I’m getting over the cough, slowly but surely. I hope you are as well as I am well but more well, as well, or something Deirdre — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just finished washing her back, and shampooing/conditioning her hair. We talked about how her mother taught her how to bathe me when I was a newborn, and I teased her about using enough soap on her neck. There were a couple of little scabs on her scalp from where she scratches too long.  I reminded her not to scratch very long, and she said she tries to catch herself before it bleeds. I came in my room and sat here– my pulse was racing, I was breathing fast and shallowly. I took a half a Klonopin and closed my eyes. I saw a picture of Mom in my mind, only she was baby-size, and she was in a baby’s bath basin, and I wanted to cry because I never wanted to be a mother, yet she’s so precious to me. I am waiting for her to finish — she washes all the rest of her by herself. (a couple of minutes later) She called me in to move the shampoo and conditioner bottles so she could get off her bath bench without knocking them over. I waited in the hall while she got her land legs back and came out, then I went in and turned off the water, wrung out the foam piece we put on the floor (to catch all the sprays and spills), rinsed her washcloth in cold water and wrung it well (her hands are too weak to wring anything), and hung it to dry, and I picked up the soap she apologized for dropping. And I kept seeing her as a little child. It’s beautiful and it’s painful all at the same time. Mostly painful at this moment. In a few minutes, when she’s dressed, I’ll set her hair on those tiny little brush rollers with the pink plastic picks, and we’ll await the grocery delivery together. I hope the Klonopin hurries up because I’m on the edge of crying. Writing about it helps, though. My hands aren’t shaking too bad, just a little.  I’ll be okay in a couple of minutes. I feel terribly old right now. Deirdre

Dear deidre this posting moves me very much ! I think you are a wonder There are no words for what I feel reading this But it makes me love you even more Love from Anna — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi, Deirdre, Maybe your anxiety was from the emotional piece you were dealing with, seeing your mother as a baby.  You are a good caretaker to her and I can imagine she truly appreciates you! smiles, Elise

Yes — it was sort of a shock to "see" her as an infant. I do the best I can with what I’ve got. I think I’d have fled in some kind of despair long ago if she didn’t appreciate me.  When I hear about people who don’t get along with their parents for whatever reason, I feel so bad for them — I’m lucky. Deirdre — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <gently snipped ::And I kept seeing her as a little child. It’s beautiful and it’s painful ::all at the same time. Mostly painful at this moment. In a few minutes, ::when she’s dressed, I’ll set her hair on those tiny little brush rollers ::with the pink plastic picks, and we’ll await the grocery delivery together. :: ::I hope the Klonopin hurries up because I’m on the edge of crying. ::Writing about it helps, though. My hands aren’t shaking too bad, just a ::little.  I’ll be okay in a couple of minutes. Dear Deirdre, It`s funny that you wrote this today. The woman I care for… was telling me how she took care of her elderly mother for a few years before her death. She talked of how the roles of child and parent get reversed as the parent gets older. It got me thinking and wondering how it would be to take care of my mother. I mean, really take care of her. The images I had…. pained me to my core. I think I understand your sadness…. and also the beauty of being able to repay your mom for being such a good and loving mother to you. Your mom is blessed to have you….. as you are blessed to have her. (((((Deirdre & Mom))))) Jackie

I have read, as everyone has I’m sure, many instances of parent-child role reversal, and I would always just nod my head. But you just don’t know the depth of feeling until you’re in it. When I said to her, "Now scrub that neck! I want to see suds!" we exchanged a look and a chuckle that acknowledged that role reversal. I’m glad we could laugh about it.  I wish everybody could meet her — she’s a peach. (((((Jackie))))) Deirdre — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just finished washing her back, and shampooing/conditioning her hair. We talked about how her mother taught her how to bathe me when I was a newborn, and I teased her about using enough soap on her neck. There were a couple of little scabs on her scalp from where she scratches too long.  I reminded her not to scratch very long, and she said she tries to catch herself before it bleeds. I came in my room and sat here– my pulse was racing, I was breathing fast and shallowly. I took a half a Klonopin and closed my eyes. I saw a picture of Mom in my mind, only she was baby-size, and she was in a baby’s bath basin, and I wanted to cry because I never wanted to be a mother, yet she’s so precious to me. I am waiting for her to finish — she washes all the rest of her by herself. (a couple of minutes later) She called me in to move the shampoo and conditioner bottles so she could get off her bath bench without knocking them over. I waited in the hall while she got her land legs back and came out, then I went in and turned off the water, wrung out the foam piece we put on the floor (to catch all the sprays and spills), rinsed her washcloth in cold water and wrung it well (her hands are too weak to wring anything), and hung it to dry, and I picked up the soap she apologized for dropping. And I kept seeing her as a little child. It’s beautiful and it’s painful all at the same time. Mostly painful at this moment. In a few minutes, when she’s dressed, I’ll set her hair on those tiny little brush rollers with the pink plastic picks, and we’ll await the grocery delivery together. I hope the Klonopin hurries up because I’m on the edge of crying. Writing about it helps, though. My hands aren’t shaking too bad, just a little.  I’ll be okay in a couple of minutes. I feel terribly old right now. Deirdre Dear deidre this posting moves me very much ! I think you are a wonder There are no words for what I feel reading this But it makes me love you even more Love from Anna

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Hi, Deirdre, Maybe your anxiety was from the emotional piece you were dealing with, seeing your mother as a baby.  You are a good caretaker to her and I can imagine she truly appreciates you! smiles, Elise

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just finished washing her back, and shampooing/conditioning her hair. We talked about how her mother taught her how to bathe me when I was a newborn, and I teased her about using enough soap on her neck. There were a couple of little scabs on her scalp from where she scratches too long.  I reminded her not to scratch very long, and she said she tries to catch herself before it bleeds. I came in my room and sat here– my pulse was racing, I was breathing fast and shallowly. I took a half a Klonopin and closed my eyes. I saw a picture of Mom in my mind, only she was baby-size, and she was in a baby’s bath basin, and I wanted to cry because I never wanted to be a mother, yet she’s so precious to me. I am waiting for her to finish — she washes all the rest of her by herself. (a couple of minutes later) She called me in to move the shampoo and conditioner bottles so she could get off her bath bench without knocking them over. I waited in the hall while she got her land legs back and came out, then I went in and turned off the water, wrung out the foam piece we put on the floor (to catch all the sprays and spills), rinsed her washcloth in cold water and wrung it well (her hands are too weak to wring anything), and hung it to dry, and I picked up the soap she apologized for dropping. And I kept seeing her as a little child. It’s beautiful and it’s painful all at the same time. Mostly painful at this moment. In a few minutes, when she’s dressed, I’ll set her hair on those tiny little brush rollers with the pink plastic picks, and we’ll await the grocery delivery together. I hope the Klonopin hurries up because I’m on the edge of crying. Writing about it helps, though. My hands aren’t shaking too bad, just a little.  I’ll be okay in a couple of minutes. I feel terribly old right now. Deirdre — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I feel terribly old right now.

Deirdre, I think you’re doing a wonderful thing for your mom, and it *is* tough … but you’re making it through, and helping out in the process. Give yourself the credit you deserve. Oh, and don’t forget to laugh sometimes. It really helps. (It might not at *this* moment, but, you know, when you’re feeling a little bit better.) Hope you’re well, Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedburg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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<gently snipped ::And I kept seeing her as a little child. It’s beautiful and it’s painful ::all at the same time. Mostly painful at this moment. In a few minutes, ::when she’s dressed, I’ll set her hair on those tiny little brush rollers ::with the pink plastic picks, and we’ll await the grocery delivery together. :: ::I hope the Klonopin hurries up because I’m on the edge of crying. ::Writing about it helps, though. My hands aren’t shaking too bad, just a ::little.  I’ll be okay in a couple of minutes. Dear Deirdre, It`s funny that you wrote this today. The woman I care for… was telling me how she took care of her elderly mother for a few years before her death. She talked of how the roles of child and parent get reversed as the parent gets older. It got me thinking and wondering how it would be to take care of my mother. I mean, really take care of her. The images I had…. pained me to my core. I think I understand your sadness…. and also the beauty of being able to repay your mom for being such a good and loving mother to you. Your mom is blessed to have you….. as you are blessed to have her. (((((Deirdre & Mom))))) Jackie ~*~It takes a real storm in the average person’s life to make him realize how much worrying he has done over the squalls~*~   ~ Bruce Fairchild Barton — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I’ve never heard of a Civil War themed party. Mysteries yes, but not Civil

War. I’m pretty sure they weren’t thinking of certain aspects when they chose it. Personally, I think your office mate should go in a grand Scarlett O’Hara type crimson red gown if she can find one and act as hoity toity as possible :) Or, she could go as Scarlett O’Hara as Carol Burnett did – the long dress made of draperies, with the rod still in them! <G – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Neat pic! Do you own that outfit? May I borrow it? ;) (just kidding!) Not me, though. I don’t think I could be comfortable in the corset and I’m certainly not a hat girl. lol — Cheryl

Oh, I would *kill* to have hats come back in fashion!  I *LOVE* hats and would wear one every day if it were only acceptable at work!! Hugs, CatNipped

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You’re talking to the wrong woman about costumes.  I collect vintage clothing – whether it be authentic or not.  I honest to god wish I could have lived in an era where I wore corsets and hoop skirts and then moved into the 1920’s as the styles got shorter (as well as the hair).  Call me nuts.  I would have survived just fine on beans and cornbread cooked over a wood fire.  Been there, done that when I lost electricity for a week :) http://community.webshots.com/photo/156785843/156786523XokiaV Jill

Wow, Jill, that is *SO* kewl.  I’m like you, I would love wearing clothes like that (especially the adorable hats they used to wear)! Hugs, CatNipped

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – rec.pets.cats.anecdotes You’re talking to the wrong woman about costumes.  I collect vintage clothing – whether it be authentic or not.  I honest to god wish I could have lived in an era where I wore corsets and hoop skirts and then moved into the 1920’s as the styles got shorter (as well as the hair).  Call me nuts.  I would have survived just fine on beans and cornbread cooked over a wood fire.  Been there, done that when I lost electricity for a week :) http://community.webshots.com/photo/156785843/156786523XokiaV Neat pic! Do you own that outfit? May I borrow it? ;) (just kidding!) Not me, though. I don’t think I could be comfortable in the corset and I’m certainly not a hat girl. lol

I own a couple like it (including the hair, since I’m a blonde and don’t have ringlets LOL)  Try sitting in the office wearing that outfit all day. Hoop skirts are surprisingly cool (think air-conditioned) :) Jill <—never wears hats unless she’s dressed as her alter ego

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You’re talking to the wrong woman about costumes.  I collect vintage clothing – whether it be authentic or not.  I honest to god wish I could have lived in an era where I wore corsets and hoop skirts and then moved into the 1920’s as the styles got shorter (as well as the hair).  Call me nuts.  I would have survived just fine on beans and cornbread cooked over a wood fire.  Been there, done that when I lost electricity for a week :) http://community.webshots.com/photo/156785843/156786523XokiaV Jill Wow, Jill, that is *SO* kewl.  I’m like you, I would love wearing clothes like that (especially the adorable hats they used to wear)! Hugs, CatNipped

You like hats, check this site :) http://www.antiquedress.com/galleryhats1.htm Jill

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What do you guys think of these types of themed parties? As you can probably tell, the idea isn’t going over too well with some of the invitees. ///

Reminds me of a story when HRFL Tiger was a kitten about 5 – 6 months old… Not exactly a themed party, but in the UK we have something called Ann Summers parties. A bit like tupperwear parties, where a rep comes around, only with sex toys and naughty underwear. For my 27 birthday, I threw an Ann Summers party. The rep had no sense of humour what-so-ever. She got about 3/4 of the way through the party, and then pulled out a 10" black rubber covered vibrator. With the imortal words "This is a black mamba", she switched it on and placed it into the middle of the floor. Well…..This was HRFL Tiger hoolikittens ultimate best dream. He pounced on this vibrating "thing" and started biting and bunny-kicking the crap out of it. He was going to kill this moving thing that was creeping towards his mommy. The rep had a sense of humour faliure. (I couldn’t do anything to help, I was convulsed in hysterics). She went to take it off him. Rule 101…. Never attempt to remove a hoolikitten from his vibrating vibrator. HRFL Tiger bit the rep. Then continued to kill the vibrator. It eventually died a heroic death (the batteries ran out) and honour was restored. I stopped laughing long enough to take it off him. But only after a very impressive set of kitty fang marks were well entrenched on the vibrator. HRFL Tiger claims the day he tamed the black mamba as a small 3lb kitten was one of his proudest moments. ;o) Helen M

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are both co-workers of mine and we work in an area that is basically a melting pot. So far I’ve even heard one of our other co-workers who is African-American really shocked at this. She wants to know if she should dress like "Mammy"? What do you guys think of these types of themed parties? As you can probably tell, the idea isn’t going over too well with some of the invitees.

I think everyone needs to "get over it", as it were.  I hate to say this, really, but the American Civil War happened and you can’t re-write history as much as some may wish to.  What kills me is, living in the southern U.S. so many people are still trying to fight that war.  And yes, tell your co-worker to get out her Mammy outfit, kerchief and her bilin’ pot and be prepared to make and serve some griddle cakes wid cane syrup and turnip greens. Personally, I enjoy a costume party.  Not sure if this falls into that category. Jill (tongue in cheek)

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You like hats, check this site :) http://www.antiquedress.com/galleryhats1.htm Jill

I like the civil war / Victorian / 20s era hats – don’t much care for the 30s – 50s styles.  I like the big floppy brimmed ones or the darling hats worn in "Gone With the Wind" movie. Hugs, CatNipped

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HRFL Tiger claims the day he tamed the black mamba as a small 3lb kitten was one of his proudest moments. ;o) Helen M

ROTFLMAOWTIME!!!!  Ohmygawd I wish I had been there! Hugs, CatNipped

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – @fe1.texas.rr.com): We do food-themed parties, do those count? Now, that sounds like fun! But the concern is because of the era, plus having to rent a costume, plus buy a wedding gift. Maybe I’ll just go formal. It sounds like some others plan to do that in leu of costume. You’re talking to the wrong woman about costumes.  I collect vintage clothing – whether it be authentic or not.  I honest to god wish I could have lived in an era where I wore corsets and hoop skirts and then moved into the 1920’s as the styles got shorter (as well as the hair).  Call me nuts.  I would have survived just fine on beans and cornbread cooked over a wood fire.  Been there, done that when I lost electricity for a week :) http://community.webshots.com/photo/156785843/156786523XokiaV Jill

I’ve spent the last 25 years involved in historical re-enactments, complete with corset, hoops and all the rest.  During grad school I worked at a local historical site as a historic interpreter- I spent 7 years going to work in a corset.  My work clothes were full 19th century. Here’s some of my pictures….  The ferrotypes are actually done with 19th century technology; there’s a photographer who brings a full 19th century photographer’s set-up to Civil War events around here, so the ferrotypes are of me, my son, and my husband and his horse. http://homepage.mac.com/kworley/photos/PhotoAlbum21.html As for themed parties, the best one I’ve been to was a "Lord of the Rings"  dinner party.  It was right after extended version of the first movie was released on DVD, and we all had to bring food that was mentioned in the books.  We sat around and ate ourselves into a stupor while watching the extended version of the DVD.  Since most of us were re-enactors and costume geeks, we spent lots of time pausing the movie in order to see the detail on the clothing. Katrina

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rec.pets.cats.anecdotes You’re talking to the wrong woman about costumes.  I collect vintage clothing – whether it be authentic or not.  I honest to god wish I could have lived in an era where I wore corsets and hoop skirts and then moved into the 1920’s as the styles got shorter (as well as the hair).  Call me nuts.  I would have survived just fine on beans and cornbread cooked over a wood fire.  Been there, done that when I lost electricity for a week :) http://community.webshots.com/photo/156785843/156786523XokiaV

Neat pic! Do you own that outfit? May I borrow it? ;) (just kidding!)   Not me, though. I don’t think I could be comfortable in the corset and I’m certainly not a hat girl. lol — Cheryl

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@fe1.texas.rr.com): We do food-themed parties, do those count? Now, that sounds like fun! But the concern is because of the era, plus having to rent a costume, plus buy a wedding gift. Maybe I’ll just go formal. It sounds like some others plan to do that in leu of costume.

You’re talking to the wrong woman about costumes.  I collect vintage clothing – whether it be authentic or not.  I honest to god wish I could have lived in an era where I wore corsets and hoop skirts and then moved into the 1920’s as the styles got shorter (as well as the hair).  Call me nuts.  I would have survived just fine on beans and cornbread cooked over a wood fire.  Been there, done that when I lost electricity for a week :) http://community.webshots.com/photo/156785843/156786523XokiaV Jill

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rec.pets.cats.anecdotes I guess it depends on what the hosts want to do, although I’m sure they didn’t consider the feelings of some of their guests about the era in question (or maybe they did and it didn’t matter). I agree with the suggestion that your African-American co-worker should consider dressing to out Scarlett Scarlett O’Hara, "shut mah mouth" and all. It would be even better if her DH could dress in kind – Rhett Butler/Ashley Wilkes/Miss Melanie, etc.

Ok my kitties aren’t going!! (giggling at Scarlett and Rhett, who incidentally have littermates named Ashley and Michelle) The invitation came from "his" parents so I really wonder whose idea this was in the first place. — Cheryl

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m not really a fan of them. However, friends of mine are having their wedding celebration finally, after being married last year. They are having the party on Apr 9, which is the 140th anniversary of the end of the Civil War. We aren’t required to dress in period costumes, but it is "strongly suggested" and they even included a link to a costume rental shop, and the party will be held at a place called Landon House (http://www.landonhouse.com/) and I really wonder why they chose this theme? I will have to ask. The "bride" is recently from Russia and the groom was born in the UK to American parents and moved here after most of his childhood in the UK. These are both co-workers of mine and we work in an area that is basically a melting pot. So far I’ve even heard one of our other co-workers who is African-American really shocked at this. She wants to know if she should dress like "Mammy"? What do you guys think of these types of themed parties? As you can probably tell, the idea isn’t going over too well with some of the invitees. — Cheryl I suspect your friends are unaware of the feelings about the civil war that still thrive in many parts of this country.  The end of the Civil War was a sordid ugly time for darn near everyone.  Hardly anyone or any family came out a winner when it was finally over.  That is just the nature of a civil war.  No one had any money for a fancy dress ball, and if the did there were few able bodied men for the "ladies" to attend and dance with.  The freed slaves were hardly introduced to the Garden of Eden at war’s end and physically and financially were often far worse off than they were before the war when at least they might have been valued property. I don’t think your friends would be amused at some of the post war costumes that come to my mind.  Women in ragged clothes. Men in the ratty remains of uniforms crippled or wounded or sick.  Former slaves half starved and treated by everyone else like lepers. Sorry but my family and my husbands family lived not all that far from Fredrick MD and it wasn’t party time.  The fight over slavery split my husband Plantation owning family in western Maryland forever.  Brother against brother was a grim reality in that part of the country.  (Born south of the Mason Dixon line) Jo

You worded this in the way I was thinking. It wasn’t really a good time in the US. IMO. — Cheryl

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I’ve never heard of a Civil War themed party. Mysteries yes, but not Civil War. I’m pretty sure they weren’t thinking of certain aspects when they chose it. Personally, I think your office mate should go in a grand Scarlett O’Hara type crimson red gown if she can find one and act as hoity toity as possible :)

I’m going to tell her that tomorrow!  lol  I like it!! — Cheryl

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@fe1.texas.rr.com): We do food-themed parties, do those count?

Now, that sounds like fun! But the concern is because of the era, plus having to rent a costume, plus buy a wedding gift. Maybe I’ll just go formal. It sounds like some others plan to do that in leu of costume. — Cheryl

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What do you guys think of these types of themed parties? As you can probably tell, the idea isn’t going over too well with some of the invitees.

My parents are going to a 25th anniversary party next week, and the "theme" is for everyone to dress as if from the 50s, 60s or 70s (the people in question were married in 1980, so we can’t figure out the theme of this party, except maybe "dress weird") My brother and I are having a 50th anniversary party for our parents this summer, and we’re not going with any theme. I guess it depends on what the hosts want to do, although I’m sure they didn’t consider the feelings of some of their guests about the era in question (or maybe they did and it didn’t matter). I agree with the suggestion that your African-American co-worker should consider dressing to out Scarlett Scarlett O’Hara, "shut mah mouth" and all. It would be even better if her DH could dress in kind – Rhett Butler/Ashley Wilkes/Miss Melanie, etc. Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha http://www.jhedge.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m not really a fan of them. However, friends of mine are having their wedding celebration finally, after being married last year. They are having the party on Apr 9, which is the 140th anniversary of the end of the Civil War. We aren’t required to dress in period costumes, but it is "strongly suggested" and they even included a link to a costume rental shop, and the party will be held at a place called Landon House (http://www.landonhouse.com/) and I really wonder why they chose this theme? I will have to ask. The "bride" is recently from Russia and the groom was born in the UK to American parents and moved here after most of his childhood in the UK. These are both co-workers of mine and we work in an area that is basically a melting pot. So far I’ve even heard one of our other co-workers who is African-American really shocked at this. She wants to know if she should dress like "Mammy"? What do you guys think of these types of themed parties? As you can probably tell, the idea isn’t going over too well with some of the invitees. I’ve never heard of a Civil War themed party. Mysteries yes, but not Civil War. I’m pretty sure they weren’t thinking of certain aspects when they chose it. Personally, I think your office mate should go in a grand Scarlett O’Hara type crimson red gown if she can find one and act as hoity toity as possible :)

As one who attends occasional Civil War era reenactments, I have to say it’s a lot of fun to try to drive a 5 speed while wearing a hoop skirt! Jill

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m not really a fan of them. However, friends of mine are having their wedding celebration finally, after being married last year. They are having the party on Apr 9, which is the 140th anniversary of the end of the Civil War. We aren’t required to dress in period costumes, but it is "strongly suggested" and they even included a link to a costume rental shop, and the party will be held at a place called Landon House (http://www.landonhouse.com/) and I really wonder why they chose this theme? I will have to ask. The "bride" is recently from Russia and the groom was born in the UK to American parents and moved here after most of his childhood in the UK. These are both co-workers of mine and we work in an area that is basically a melting pot. So far I’ve even heard one of our other co-workers who is African-American really shocked at this. She wants to know if she should dress like "Mammy"? What do you guys think of these types of themed parties? As you can probably tell, the idea isn’t going over too well with some of the invitees.

I’ve never heard of a Civil War themed party. Mysteries yes, but not Civil War. I’m pretty sure they weren’t thinking of certain aspects when they chose it. Personally, I think your office mate should go in a grand Scarlett O’Hara type crimson red gown if she can find one and act as hoity toity as possible :)

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We do food-themed parties, do those count? — Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m not really a fan of them. However, friends of mine are having their wedding celebration finally, after being married last year. They are having the party on Apr 9, which is the 140th anniversary of the end of the Civil War. We aren’t required to dress in period costumes, but it is "strongly suggested" and they even included a link to a costume rental shop, and the party will be held at a place called Landon House (http://www.landonhouse.com/) and I really wonder why they chose this theme? I will have to ask. The "bride" is recently from Russia and the groom was born in the UK to American parents and moved here after most of his childhood in the UK. These are both co-workers of mine and we work in an area that is basically a melting pot. So far I’ve even heard one of our other co-workers who is African-American really shocked at this. She wants to know if she should dress like "Mammy"? What do you guys think of these types of themed parties? As you can probably tell, the idea isn’t going over too well with some of the invitees. — Cheryl

I suspect your friends are unaware of the feelings about the civil war that still thrive in many parts of this country.  The end of the Civil War was a sordid ugly time for darn near everyone.  Hardly anyone or any family came out a winner when it was finally over.  That is just the nature of a civil war.  No one had any money for a fancy dress ball, and if the did there were few able bodied men for the "ladies" to attend and dance with.  The freed slaves were hardly introduced to the Garden of Eden at war’s end and physically and financially were often far worse off than they were before the war when at least they might have been valued property. I don’t think your friends would be amused at some of the post war costumes that come to my mind.  Women in ragged clothes.  Men in the ratty remains of uniforms crippled or wounded or sick.  Former slaves half starved and treated by everyone else like lepers. Sorry but my family and my husbands family lived not all that far from Fredrick MD and it wasn’t party time.  The fight over slavery split my husband Plantation owning family in western Maryland forever.  Brother against brother was a grim reality in that part of the country.  (Born south of the Mason Dixon line) Jo

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I’m not really a fan of them. However, friends of mine are having their wedding celebration finally, after being married last year. They are having the party on Apr 9, which is the 140th anniversary of the end of the Civil War. We aren’t required to dress in period costumes, but it is "strongly suggested" and they even included a link to a costume rental shop, and the party will be held at a place called Landon House (http://www.landonhouse.com/) and I really wonder why they chose this theme? I will have to ask. The "bride" is recently from Russia and the groom was born in the UK to American parents and moved here after most of his childhood in the UK. These are both co-workers of mine and we work in an area that is basically a melting pot. So far I’ve even heard one of our other co-workers who is African-American really shocked at this. She wants to know if she should dress like "Mammy"? What do you guys think of these types of themed parties? As you can probably tell, the idea isn’t going over too well with some of the invitees. — Cheryl

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m not really a fan of them. However, friends of mine are having their wedding celebration finally, after being married last year. They are having the party on Apr 9, which is the 140th anniversary of the end of the Civil War. We aren’t required to dress in period costumes, but it is "strongly suggested" and they even included a link to a costume rental shop, and the party will be held at a place called Landon House (http://www.landonhouse.com/) and I really wonder why they chose this theme? I will have to ask. The "bride" is recently from Russia and the groom was born in the UK to American parents and moved here after most of his childhood in the UK. These are both co-workers of mine and we work in an area that is basically a melting pot. So far I’ve even heard one of our other co-workers who is African-American really shocked at this. She wants to know if she should dress like "Mammy"? What do you guys think of these types of themed parties? As you can probably tell, the idea isn’t going over too well with some of the invitees.

They aren’t all bad, but you need a LOT of co-operation, and of course, you have to choose a theme that’s not going to get up your guests’ nose.    I don’t think I would have a "themed" wedding, though– a "wedding" is more than enough theme for me.  It’s just too much pressure on the guests, but that’s just me. ;) There seem to be different ways of looking at weddings.  One very common way of looking at it is:   1)It’s MY day, and I must have EVERYTHING EXACTLY the way I fantasized it since age 8, or whatever.   It is MY day to be Paris Hilton, Martha Stewart, insert the Style Princess of your choice.  That means EVERYBODY better do what I want, EVERY MINUTE.   The way my brother and his wife did it was: 2) We want everybody there to have the best damn time they ever had. That means, first of all, that nobody is made to feel uncomfortable or spend money they can’t afford.  And the rest just follows from that. And my brother’s wedding *was* one of the best damn parties of any kind I’d ever been to, and most of the guests agreed. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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rec.pets.cats.anecdotes They aren’t all bad, but you need a LOT of co-operation, and of course, you have to choose a theme that’s not going to get up your guests’ nose.    I don’t think I would have a "themed" wedding, though– a "wedding" is more than enough theme for me. It’s just too much pressure on the guests, but that’s just me. ;)

I tend to agree. I hope my post didn’t sound offensive or anything, but some of us could only think about how the civil war era wasn’t a really good time for our country. The only good I could see coming from it was those fighting for beliefs that didn’t include owning other humans. There seem to be different ways of looking at weddings.  One very common way of looking at it is:   1)It’s MY day, and I must have EVERYTHING EXACTLY the way I fantasized it since age 8, or whatever.   It is MY day to be Paris Hilton, Martha Stewart, insert the Style Princess of your choice.  That means EVERYBODY better do what I want, EVERY MINUTE.  

Heehee! Which makes me wonder why this theme? This girl is not a civil war buff, American History buff, or anything like that. The way my brother and his wife did it was: 2) We want everybody there to have the best damn time they ever had. That means, first of all, that nobody is made to feel uncomfortable or spend money they can’t afford.  And the rest just follows from that. And my brother’s wedding *was* one of the best damn parties of any kind I’d ever been to, and most of the guests agreed.

And that is what makes it memorable. Not spending a ton of money on costumes, or being "different". — Cheryl

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – rec.pets.cats.anecdotes They aren’t all bad, but you need a LOT of co-operation, and of course, you have to choose a theme that’s not going to get up your guests’ nose.    I don’t think I would have a "themed" wedding, though– a "wedding" is more than enough theme for me. It’s just too much pressure on the guests, but that’s just me. ;) I tend to agree. I hope my post didn’t sound offensive or anything, but some of us could only think about how the civil war era wasn’t a really good time for our country. The only good I could see coming from it was those fighting for beliefs that didn’t include owning other humans. There seem to be different ways of looking at weddings.  One very common way of looking at it is:   1)It’s MY day, and I must have EVERYTHING EXACTLY the way I fantasized it since age 8, or whatever.   It is MY day to be Paris Hilton, Martha Stewart, insert the Style Princess of your choice.  That means EVERYBODY better do what I want, EVERY MINUTE.   Heehee! Which makes me wonder why this theme? This girl is not a civil war buff, American History buff, or anything like that.

Three Words:  BIG POOFY DRESSES. ;)   Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What I would do is find out exactly how much they can take the dress in & how much it is going to cost. If it is really as expensive as you think it will be to alter it enough, order it in a size 6 or and 8 and sell the bigger one. At least that’s what i would do:)Robyn no time to order a 3rd dress – it took 2 months each time and there is only about 5-6 weeks left

Bummer. I didn’t realize that it took 8 weeks. My duaghter in law ordered her bridesmaids’ dresses from them & I didn’t remember it taking that long. We also had issues with a bridesmaid losing weight after she ordered her dress. I guess your only option is to just have it taken in as much as possible & stand up straight & look gorgeous:) I looked at the picture and it is a pretty dress, hopefully they can take it in enough so that you are happy with the way that you look. Robyn

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What I would do is find out exactly how much they can take the dress in & how much it is going to cost. If it is really as expensive as you think it will be to alter it enough, order it in a size 6 or and 8 and sell the bigger one. At least that’s what i would do:)Robyn no time to order a 3rd dress – it took 2 months each time and there is only about 5-6 weeks left Bummer. I didn’t realize that it took 8 weeks. My duaghter in law ordered her bridesmaids’ dresses from them & I didn’t remember it taking that long. We also had issues with a bridesmaid losing weight after she ordered her dress. I guess your only option is to just have it taken in as much as possible & stand up straight & look gorgeous:) I looked at the picture and it is a pretty dress, hopefully they can take it in enough so that you are happy with the way that you look. Robyn

It’s funny – the girls are all wearing different styles but the same color. i chose my style because it had belly camoflage!! I didn’t know I’d be 30lbs down or more bythe wedding!

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Would it work to inventively pad out your body enough to fit into the dress.

no – that’s retarded Would be cheap. Not require remake of dress. You are never gonna wear the dress again, right?

I could wear it to a wedding, formal event or on a cruise. It’s nice. Keeps you going along happily on your weight loss program.    Your Bride friend would prefer that you look out for yourself and your health before "looking beautiful" in the chorus line of bridemaids, surely?

No – brides want the pictures to look nice LOL Ask your bride friend for her advice.

She has enough stress right now!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jim I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different size in time. So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!! My dilemma is this: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I won’t be able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to stop now!! I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make it fit me well enough. Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are coming up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to give up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just freaking out!! One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of fruit – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my discipline… Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me nuts!! JoAnna 176/146/120 — Keepsake gift for young girls. Unique and personal one-of-a-kind. Builds strong minds 12 ways. Guaranteed satisfaction – courteous money back – keep bonus gifts  http://www.alicebook.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can you run some numbers by us? What weight do you expect to be at at the wedding date, and what weight would make your dress look good? i Well – the dress is already a full size too large so it’s already trouble. If I stay exactly as I am and have it altered I won’t have to worry about the altered dress being too big. Maybe I didn’t make that clear. If I get the dress altered from a 12 down to a 10 then lose more weight I will have problems. I don’t have a projected weight for 6 weeks from now but I have been losing 4-8lbs a month. I find that pants that fit one week are loose the next! I am not wasting away – LOL – but I don’t want to put the brakes on either!! I figure if I keep losing then put off alterations as long as possible it may work out. If you showing up in a dress too big would not upset the bride too much, I would say do not bother altering. Besides the bride, no one is likely to give a shit, and if they do notice, it will be a positive thing like "oh, this girl must have lost weight". I spent 6 months wearing XL clothes after losing weight, even though I was size M. (I was not sure if I was or was not going to regain, so I did not want to be like an idiot buying all brand new clothes and then regaining).

I’m sure you looked lovely. At least I am keeping up apperances shopping at thrift shops!! I got some Calvins and Gap jeans for 1$ and 6$ and a lot of nice shirts and 2 awesome cool jackets at Salvation Army! Not to mention my new Frye platform boots that were only $7!! Also, small alterations are not incredibly difficult if you have a sewing machine or a friend with one. Just a bit of alteration in the waist area may be "good enuff". It’s not your wedding after all. — 223/172.4/180

This is NY people – looks count. I must have the dress at least altered from a 12 to 10, after that I don’t know if there is anything i can do. I am not taking an evening gown to my sewing machine – no way jose.

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::: Just wear a dress that is too big and don’t sweat it.  Stopping your ::: weight ::: loss for a wedding would be completely nuts. :: :: :: You have obviously never been a bride or a bridesmaiid LOL!!! Very true.  That is definite not part of the plan for me! :) For :: one thing the dress looks ridiculously big right now. The bride & :: groom are spending alot of money on photos and I can’t show up in a :: big baggy tent of a dress! I’ve lost 5 inches in my hips since :: june!!! and a few inches in the chest, belly and waist also! The :: dress must be altered, I guess you mean if it’s a little big after :: that it’s ok? If the dress must be altered, then it will be.  Waiting as long as you can and living with a slightly too big dress won’t be the end of your or their world – even if it were a baggy tent dress! :) Protect your weight loss and any cost.  Everyone knows how hard it can be for lots of poeple to even get weight loss started. :: :::

::::: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ::::: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I ::::: would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could ::::: return it and re-order a different size in time. ::::: ::::: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered ::::: the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked ::::: up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally ::::: altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the ::::: damn dress and I am broke right now!! ::::: ::::: My dilemma is this: ::::: ::::: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then ::::: restart after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I ::::: am scared I won’t be able to get back on track or that If I ::::: loosen up a bit I will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go ::::: and I don’t want to stop now!! ::::: ::::: I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible ::::: to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make ::::: it fit me well enough. ::::: ::::: Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are ::::: coming up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to ::::: give up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just ::::: freaking out!! ::::: ::::: One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads ::::: with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of ::::: fruit – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my ::::: discipline… ::::: ::::: Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me ::::: nuts!! JoAnna ::::: 176/146/120

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::: :::: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We :::: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I :::: would be soon. So ::: when ::: I :::: ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a :::: different size in time. :::: :::: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered :::: the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up :::: my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered :::: and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn :::: dress and I am broke right now!! :::: ::: ::: The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor about ::: the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting all worked ::: up for nothing.  After all, the difference between a 12 and a 10 ::: isn’t that big of ::: a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be too ::: big around.  It is possible that the tailor (or you) could just ::: baste it on the ::: inside to make it tighter. ::: ::: Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some ::: professional advice. That won’t cost anything. ::: ::: Pat in TX ::: ::: :: :: I spoke to the alterations person at the bridal shop. She said the :: dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean 12 :: to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8. If I wore the dress how it is :: now it looks very silly!! :: :: This is the dress, I dunno if the link will work :: http://www.davidsbridal.com/bridesmaids_dresses_bycolor_detail.jsp?st… :: but it’s style 8158 in Apple red. :: :: it’s just too big allover right now. Is that you in the dress? Oh boy! :)

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What I would do is find out exactly how much they can take the dress in & how much it is going to cost. If it is really as expensive as you think it will be to alter it enough, order it in a size 6 or and 8 and sell the bigger one. At least that’s what i would do:)Robyn

no time to order a 3rd dress – it took 2 months each time and there is only about 5-6 weeks left

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Your health is more important than a dress or a wedding!  Health lasts forever, if you drop out of a diet that’s working, you may be fat for years yet. Ask the bride what she would prefer: you HEALTHY in a dress tucked together with safety pins, or you HEALTHY in the audience and someone else wearing the dress. If she says she wants you UNHEALTHY in the dress, skip the wedding. :) Auntie Lonelyhearts I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different size in time. So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!!

Are you sure they sent a 12? Try on some dresses from a rack, see if those 12s fit you. If they sent the wrong size or their 12 isn’t standard, then make them Fedex you something with the right waist-size, at their expense. Who is going to be looking that close at a bridesmaid’s dress anyway? Who is going to be counting the safety pins? :)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It is a wonderful thing.  Is it such a burden to apologize to the other wedding guests for losing weight?  I say, wear the oversize dress with pride.  Think of it as showing off. I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when  I ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different  size in time. So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress  and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10.  It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!! My dilemma is this: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I won’t be  able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to stop now!! I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make it fit me well enough. Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are coming  up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to give up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just freaking out!! One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of fruit – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my discipline… Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me nuts!! JoAnna 176/146/120

Wear it, one size too big isn’t going to be noticable anyway. GAWD! how I wish I owned something that was too big for me LOL!!!

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Would it work to inventively pad out your body enough to fit into the dress. Would be cheap. Not require remake of dress. You are never gonna wear the dress again, right? Keeps you going along happily on your weight loss program.     Your Bride friend would prefer that you look out for yourself and your health before "looking beautiful" in the chorus line of bridemaids, surely? Ask your bride friend for her advice. Jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different size in time. So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!! My dilemma is this: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I won’t be able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to stop now!! I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make it fit me well enough. Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are coming up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to give up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just freaking out!! One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of fruit – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my discipline… Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me nuts!! JoAnna 176/146/120

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our : dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when I : ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different size : in time. : : So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, : well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress and : it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10. It’ll : probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!! : The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor about the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting all worked up for nothing.  After all, the difference between a 12 and a 10 isn’t that big of a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be too big around.  It is possible that the tailor (or you) could just baste it on the inside to make it tighter. Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some professional advice. That won’t cost anything. Pat in TX

I spoke to the alterations person at the bridal shop. She said the dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean 12 to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8. If I wore the dress how it is now it looks very silly!! This is the dress, I dunno if the link will work http://www.davidsbridal.com/bridesmaids_dresses_bycolor_detail.jsp?st… but it’s style 8158 in Apple red. it’s just too big allover right now.

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Just wear a dress that is too big and don’t sweat it.  Stopping your weight loss for a wedding would be completely nuts.

You have obviously never been a bride or a bridesmaiid LOL!!! For one thing the dress looks ridiculously big right now. The bride & groom are spending alot of money on photos and I can’t show up in a big baggy tent of a dress! I’ve lost 5 inches in my hips since june!!! and a few inches in the chest, belly and waist also! The dress must be altered, I guess you mean if it’s a little big after that it’s ok? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We :: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I :: would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could return :: it and re-order a different size in time. :: :: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the :: 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my :: new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and :: remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and :: I am broke right now!! :: :: My dilemma is this: :: :: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart :: after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I :: won’t be able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I :: will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to :: stop now!! :: :: I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible :: to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make :: it fit me well enough. :: :: Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are :: coming up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to give :: up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just :: freaking out!! :: :: One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads :: with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of fruit :: – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my discipline… :: :: Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me nuts!! :: JoAnna :: 176/146/120

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How long does a dress take to get to you once it’s ordered? Wait until the last possible minute and order the size you are then. If it’s a little big, who cares?  It’s the brides day. Jennifer

it takes 2 months – or "duh" of course I would just get another dress. i thought I said there isn’t time for that…thanks anyway. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :::::: ::::::: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ::::::: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I ::::::: would be soon. So :::::: when :::::: I ::::::: ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a ::::::: different size in time. ::::::: ::::::: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered ::::::: the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked ::::::: up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally ::::::: altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as ::::::: the damn dress and I am broke right now!! ::::::: :::::: :::::: The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor :::::: about the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting :::::: all worked up for nothing.  After all, the difference between a :::::: 12 and a 10 isn’t that big of :::::: a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be :::::: too big around.  It is possible that the tailor (or you) could :::::: just baste it on the :::::: inside to make it tighter. :::::: :::::: Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some :::::: professional advice. That won’t cost anything. :::::: :::::: Pat in TX :::::: :::::: ::::: ::::: I spoke to the alterations person at the bridal shop. She said the ::::: dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean ::::: 12 to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8. If I wore the dress how ::::: it is now it looks very silly!! ::::: ::::: This is the dress, I dunno if the link will work ::::: ::: http://www.davidsbridal.com/bridesmaids_dresses_bycolor_detail.jsp?st… ::::: but it’s style 8158 in Apple red. ::::: ::::: it’s just too big allover right now. ::: ::: Is that you in the dress? Oh boy! :) ::: ::: :: :: No – that girl’s dress fits :o ( I knew that!  Don’t worry, you’ll look fine if you can wait a big.  Just don’t have it made to fit too tightly….then you’ll put a jinx on yourself! :) yeah – I feel a bit calmer and I emailed the Bride. She’s so mellow and funny! Congratulating me on the success and saying to do what I want! Anyway – I will call the seamstress now and see what she says. Maybe We can have the alterations done 1-2 weeks beofre the wedding and it’ll be ok. someone actually suggested I pad my body to make the dress fit!! ack!

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She said the dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean 12 to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8.

That is exactly what she meant.  The difference in size is really quite small. Peace, Pen

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What I would do is find out exactly how much they can take the dress in & how much it is going to cost. If it is really as expensive as you think it will be to alter it enough, order it in a size 6 or and 8 and sell the bigger one. At least that’s what i would do:)Robyn

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Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I won’t be able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to stop now!!

I wouldn’t stop.  If I hadn’t fallen off the wagon a year ago, I’d be at goal right now.  It seems harder to re-start than it is to start and keep going.  Been there, done that, the t-shirt is too tight. Carol — "I’m a loner … a rebel!" *Paul Reubens* in the 1985 movie, _Pee Wee’s Big Adventure_

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:::::: ::::::: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ::::::: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I ::::::: would be soon. So :::::: when :::::: I ::::::: ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a ::::::: different size in time. ::::::: ::::::: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered ::::::: the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked ::::::: up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally ::::::: altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as ::::::: the damn dress and I am broke right now!! ::::::: :::::: :::::: The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor :::::: about the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting :::::: all worked up for nothing.  After all, the difference between a :::::: 12 and a 10 isn’t that big of :::::: a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be :::::: too big around.  It is possible that the tailor (or you) could :::::: just baste it on the :::::: inside to make it tighter. :::::: :::::: Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some :::::: professional advice. That won’t cost anything. :::::: :::::: Pat in TX :::::: :::::: ::::: ::::: I spoke to the alterations person at the bridal shop. She said the ::::: dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean ::::: 12 to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8. If I wore the dress how ::::: it is now it looks very silly!! ::::: ::::: This is the dress, I dunno if the link will work ::::: ::: http://www.davidsbridal.com/bridesmaids_dresses_bycolor_detail.jsp?st… ::::: but it’s style 8158 in Apple red. ::::: ::::: it’s just too big allover right now. ::: ::: Is that you in the dress? Oh boy! :) ::: ::: :: :: No – that girl’s dress fits :o ( I knew that!  Don’t worry, you’ll look fine if you can wait a big.  Just don’t have it made to fit too tightly….then you’ll put a jinx on yourself! :)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :::::: ::::::: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ::::::: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I ::::::: would be soon. So :::::: when :::::: I ::::::: ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a ::::::: different size in time. ::::::: ::::::: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered ::::::: the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked ::::::: up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally ::::::: altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as ::::::: the damn dress and I am broke right now!! ::::::: :::::: :::::: The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor :::::: about the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting :::::: all worked up for nothing.  After all, the difference between a :::::: 12 and a 10 isn’t that big of :::::: a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be :::::: too big around.  It is possible that the tailor (or you) could :::::: just baste it on the :::::: inside to make it tighter. :::::: :::::: Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some :::::: professional advice. That won’t cost anything. :::::: :::::: Pat in TX :::::: :::::: ::::: ::::: I spoke to the alterations person at the bridal shop. She said the ::::: dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean ::::: 12 to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8. If I wore the dress how ::::: it is now it looks very silly!! ::::: ::::: This is the dress, I dunno if the link will work ::::: ::: http://www.davidsbridal.com/bridesmaids_dresses_bycolor_detail.jsp?st… ::::: but it’s style 8158 in Apple red. ::::: ::::: it’s just too big allover right now. ::: ::: Is that you in the dress? Oh boy! :) ::: ::: :: :: No – that girl’s dress fits :o ( I knew that!  Don’t worry, you’ll look fine if you can wait a big.  Just don’t have it made to fit too tightly….then you’ll put a jinx on yourself! :)

yeah – I feel a bit calmer and I emailed the Bride. She’s so mellow and funny! Congratulating me on the success and saying to do what I want! Anyway – I will call the seamstress now and see what she says. Maybe We can have the alterations done 1-2 weeks beofre the wedding and it’ll be ok. someone actually suggested I pad my body to make the dress fit!! ack!

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How long does a dress take to get to you once it’s ordered? Wait until the last possible minute and order the size you are then. If it’s a little big, who cares?  It’s the brides day. Jennifer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :::::: ::::::: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ::::::: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I ::::::: would be soon. So :::::: when :::::: I ::::::: ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a ::::::: different size in time. ::::::: ::::::: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered ::::::: the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked ::::::: up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally ::::::: altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as ::::::: the damn dress and I am broke right now!! ::::::: :::::: :::::: The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor :::::: about the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting :::::: all worked up for nothing.  After all, the difference between a :::::: 12 and a 10 isn’t that big of :::::: a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be :::::: too big around.  It is possible that the tailor (or you) could :::::: just baste it on the :::::: inside to make it tighter. :::::: :::::: Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some :::::: professional advice. That won’t cost anything. :::::: :::::: Pat in TX :::::: :::::: ::::: ::::: I spoke to the alterations person at the bridal shop. She said the ::::: dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean ::::: 12 to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8. If I wore the dress how ::::: it is now it looks very silly!! ::::: ::::: This is the dress, I dunno if the link will work ::::: ::: http://www.davidsbridal.com/bridesmaids_dresses_bycolor_detail.jsp?st… ::::: but it’s style 8158 in Apple red. ::::: ::::: it’s just too big allover right now. ::: ::: Is that you in the dress? Oh boy! :) ::: ::: :: :: No – that girl’s dress fits :o ( I knew that!  Don’t worry, you’ll look fine if you can wait a big.  Just don’t have it made to fit too tightly….then you’ll put a jinx on yourself! :) yeah – I feel a bit calmer and I emailed the Bride. She’s so mellow and funny! Congratulating me on the success and saying to do what I want! Anyway – I will call the seamstress now and see what she says. Maybe We can have the alterations done 1-2 weeks beofre the wedding and it’ll be ok. someone actually suggested I pad my body to make the dress fit!! ack!

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It is a wonderful thing.  Is it such a burden to apologize to the other wedding guests for losing weight?  I say, wear the oversize dress with pride.  Think of it as showing off.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different size in time. So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!! My dilemma is this: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I won’t be able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to stop now!! I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make it fit me well enough. Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are coming up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to give up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just freaking out!! One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of fruit – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my discipline… Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me nuts!! JoAnna 176/146/120

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ::: :::: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We :::: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I :::: would be soon. So ::: when ::: I :::: ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a :::: different size in time. :::: :::: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered :::: the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up :::: my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered :::: and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn :::: dress and I am broke right now!! :::: ::: ::: The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor about ::: the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting all worked ::: up for nothing.  After all, the difference between a 12 and a 10 ::: isn’t that big of ::: a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be too ::: big around.  It is possible that the tailor (or you) could just ::: baste it on the ::: inside to make it tighter. ::: ::: Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some ::: professional advice. That won’t cost anything. ::: ::: Pat in TX ::: ::: :: :: I spoke to the alterations person at the bridal shop. She said the :: dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean 12 :: to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8. If I wore the dress how it is :: now it looks very silly!! :: :: This is the dress, I dunno if the link will work :: http://www.davidsbridal.com/bridesmaids_dresses_bycolor_detail.jsp?st… :: but it’s style 8158 in Apple red. :: :: it’s just too big allover right now. Is that you in the dress? Oh boy! :)

No – that girl’s dress fits :o (

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I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different size in time. So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!! My dilemma is this: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I won’t be able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to stop now!! I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make it fit me well enough. Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are coming up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to give up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just freaking out!! One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of fruit – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my discipline… Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me nuts!! JoAnna 176/146/120

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: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our : dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when I : ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different size : in time. : : So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, : well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress and : it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10. It’ll : probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!! : The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor about the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting all worked up for nothing.  After all, the difference between a 12 and a 10 isn’t that big of a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be too big around.  It is possible that the tailor (or you) could just baste it on the inside to make it tighter. Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some professional advice. That won’t cost anything. Pat in TX

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Can you run some numbers by us? What weight do you expect to be at at the wedding date, and what weight would make your dress look good? i

Well – the dress is already a full size too large so it’s already trouble. If I stay exactly as I am and have it altered I won’t have to worry about the altered dress being too big. Maybe I didn’t make that clear. If I get the dress altered from a 12 down to a 10 then lose more weight I will have problems. I don’t have a projected weight for 6 weeks from now but I have been losing 4-8lbs a month. I find that pants that fit one week are loose the next! I am not wasting away – LOL – but I don’t want to put the brakes on either!! I figure if I keep losing then put off alterations as long as possible it may work out.

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Just wear a dress that is too big and don’t sweat it.  Stopping your weight loss for a wedding would be completely nuts.

:: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We :: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I :: would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could return :: it and re-order a different size in time. :: :: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the :: 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my :: new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and :: remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and :: I am broke right now!! :: :: My dilemma is this: :: :: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart :: after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I :: won’t be able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I :: will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to :: stop now!! :: :: I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible :: to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make :: it fit me well enough. :: :: Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are :: coming up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to give :: up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just :: freaking out!! :: :: One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads :: with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of fruit :: – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my discipline… :: :: Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me nuts!! :: JoAnna :: 176/146/120

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17 REALLY AWFUL PUNS 1. Two antennas meet on a roof, fall in love and get married. The ceremony wasn’t much, but the reception was excellent. 2. Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. One says, "I’ve lost my electron," The other says, "Are you sure?"     The first replies, "Yes, I’m positive…" 3. A jumper cable walks into a bar. The bartender says, "I’ll serve you, but don’t start anything." 4. Two peanuts walk into a bar, and one was a salted. 5. A sandwich walks into a bar. The bartender says, "Sorry we don’t serve food in here." 6. A dyslexic man walks into a bra. 7. A man walks into a bar with a slab of asphalt under his arm and says: "A beer please, and one for the road." 8. Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?" 9. "Doc, I can’t stop singing ‘The Green, Green Grass of Home. That sounds like Tom Jones Syndrome," "Is it      common?" Doc says "It’s Not Unusual." 10. Two cows standing next to each other in a field, Daisy says to Dolly, "I was artificially inseminated        this morning," "I don’t believe you," said Dolly. "It’s true, no bull!" exclaimed Daisy. 11. An invisible man marries an invisible woman. The kids were nothing to look at either. 12. A man takes his Rottweiler to the vet and says, "My dog’s cross-eyed, is there anything you can do for him?"       "Well," says the vet, "let’s have a look at him." So he picks the dog up and examines his eyes, then checks his        teeth. Finally, he says, "I’m going to have to put him down." "What? Because he’s cross-eyed?"        "No, because he’s really heavy." 13. I went to buy some camouflage trousers the other day but I couldn’t find any. 14. I went to the butcher’s the other day and I bet him 50 bucks that he couldn’t reach the meat off the top shelf.      He said, "No, the steaks are too high." 15 . I went to a seafood disco last week… and pulled a mussel. 16 . What do you call a fish with no eyes? A fsh. 17 . Two termites walk into a bar. One asks, "Is the bar tender here?" An old fellow came into the hospital truly on death’s door due to an infected gallbladder.  The surgeon who removed the gallbladder was adamant that his patients be up and walking in the hall the day after surgery, to help prevent blood clots forming in the leg veins.  The nurses walked the patient in the hall as ordered, and after the third day the nurse told how he complained bitterly each time they did.  The surgeon told them to keep walking him. After a week, the patient was ready to go.  His family came to pick him up and thanked the surgeon profusely for what he had done for their father.  The surgeon was pleased and appreciated the thanks, but told them that it was really a simple operation and we had been lucky to get him in time.   "But doctor, you don’t understand," they said, "Dad hasn’t walked in over a year!"   We were celebrating the 100th anniversary of our church, and several former pastors and the bishop were in attendance.  At one point, our minister had the children gather at the altar for a talk about the importance of the day.  He began by asking, "Does anyone know what the bishop does?" There was silence. Finally, one little boy answered gravely, "He’s the one you can move diagonally." A fresh-faced lad on the eve of his wedding night goes to his mother with the following question. "Mom, why are wedding dresses white?" The mother looks at her son and replies, "Son, this shows the town that your bride is pure." The son thanks his mom and goes off to double-check this with his father. "Dad why are wedding dresses white?" The father looks at his son in surprise and says, "Son, all household appliances come in white" A parish priest was being honored at a dinner on the 25th anniversary of his arrival in that parish.  A leading local politician, who was a member of the congregation, was chosen to make the presentation and give a little speech at the dinner, but he was delayed in traffic. Sooo…..the priest decided to say his own few words while they waited. "You will understand," he said, "the seal of the confessional, can never be broken.  However, I got my first impressions of this parish from the first confession I heard here.  I can only hint vaguely about this, but when I came here 25 years ago, I thought I had been assigned to a terrible place.  The very first chap who entered my confessional told me how he had stolen a television set and, when stopped by the police, had almost murdered the officer.  Further, he told me he had embezzled money from his place of business and had an affair with his boss’s wife.  I was appalled.  But as the days went on I knew that my people were not all like that, and I had, indeed come to, a fine parish full of understanding and loving people." Just as the priest finished his talk, the politician arrived full of apologies for being late.  He immediately began to make the presentation and give his talk. "I’ll never forget the first day our parish priest arrived in this parish," said the politician.  "In fact, I had the honor of being the first one to go to him in confession."   The moral of this story is to never be late! A distraught senior citizen phoned her doctor’s office.   "Is it true," she wanted to know, "that the medication you prescribed has to be taken for the rest of my life?" "Yes, I’m afraid so," the doctor told her.   There was a moment of silence before the senior lady replied, "I’m wondering, then, just how serious is my condition.  This prescription is marked ‘NO REFILLS’."   A customer at Green’s Gourmet Grocery marveled at the proprietor’s quick wit and intelligence. "Tell me, Green, what makes you so smart?" "I wouldn’t share my secret with just anyone," Green replies, lowering his voice so the other shoppers won’t hear.  "But since you’re a good and faithful customer, I’ll let you in on it.  Fish heads.  You eat enough of them, you’ll be positively brilliant." "You sell them here?" the customer asks. "Only $4 apiece," says Green. The customer buys three.  A week later, he’s back in the store complaining that the fish heads were disgusting and he isn’t any smarter. "You didn’t eat enough, " says Green.  The customer goes home with 20 more fish heads.  Two weeks later, he’s back and this time he’s really angry. "Hey, Green," he says, "You’re selling me fish heads for $4 a piece when I can buy the whole fish for $2.  You’re ripping me off!" "You see?" says Green.  "You’re smarter already."   A guy arrives at the pearly gates, waiting to be admitted.  St. Peter is reading through the Big Book to see if the guy’s name is written in it.  After several minutes, St.  Peter closes the book, furrows his brow, and says, "I’m sorry, I don’t see your name written in the Book." "How current is your copy?" he asks. "I get a download every ten minutes." St.  Peter replies, "Why do you ask?" "I’m embarrassed to admit it, but I was always the stubborn type.  It was not until my death was imminent that I cried out to God, so my name probably hasn’t arrived to your copy yet." "I’m glad to hear that, "Pete says, "but while we’re waiting for the update to come through, can you tell me about a really good deed that you did in your life?" The guys thinks for a moment and says, "Hmmm, well there was this one time when I was driving down a road and I saw a group of biker gang members harassing this poor girl.  I slowed down, and sure enough, there they were, about 20 of them harassing this poor woman. Infuriated, I got out my car, grabbed a tire iron out of my trunk, and walked up to the leader of the gang.  He was a huge guy; 6-foot-4, 260 pounds, with a studded leather jacket and a chain running from his nose to his ears.  As I walked up to the leader, the bikers formed a circle around me and told me to get lost or I’d be next." "So I ripped the leader’s chain out of his face and smashed him over the head with the tire iron.  Then I turned around and yelled to the rest of them, ‘Leave this poor innocent girl alone!  You’re all a bunch of SICK, deranged animals!  Go home before I really teach you a lesson in PAIN!’" St.  Peter, duly impressed, says "Wow!  When did this happen" "About three minutes ago."   Fans of ’60’s music, my 14-year-old daughter and her best friend got front-row tickets to a Peter, Paul, and Mary concert.   When they returned home, my daughter said, "During the show, we looked back an saw hundreds of little lights swaying to the music.  At first we thought people were holding up cigarette lighters.  Then we realized that the lights were the reflections off all the eyeglasses and bald heads in the audience.   More than anything, Bob wanted to be a cowpoke.  Taking pity on him, a rancher decided to hire the lad and give him a chance. "This," he said, showing him a rope, "is a lariat.  We use it to catch cows." "I see," said Bob, trying to seem knowledgeable as he examined the lariat.  "And what do you use for bait?"   That’s all for now, as I’ve said many times, I don’t write them, I just pass them along in hopes of giving someone a smile. Sorry Ronnie, I couldn’t find any Little Johnny jokes that I felt I could post in this forum this time around, but I will keep my eyes and ears open for some. Bear

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following fruit: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -17 REALLY AWFUL PUNS 1. Two antennas meet on a roof, fall in love and get married. The ceremony wasn’t much, but the reception was excellent. 2. Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. One says, "I’ve lost my electron," The other says, "Are you sure?"    The first replies, "Yes, I’m positive…" 3. A jumper cable walks into a bar. The bartender says, "I’ll serve you, but don’t start anything." 4. Two peanuts walk into a bar, and one was a salted. 5. A sandwich walks into a bar. The bartender says, "Sorry we don’t serve food in here." 6. A dyslexic man walks into a bra. 7. A man walks into a bar with a slab of asphalt under his arm and says: "A beer please, and one for the road." 8. Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?" 9. "Doc, I can’t stop singing ‘The Green, Green Grass of Home. That sounds like Tom Jones Syndrome," "Is it     common?" Doc says "It’s Not Unusual." 10. Two cows standing next to each other in a field, Daisy says to Dolly, "I was artificially inseminated       this morning," "I don’t believe you," said Dolly. "It’s true, no bull!" exclaimed Daisy. 11. An invisible man marries an invisible woman. The kids were nothing to look at either. 12. A man takes his Rottweiler to the vet and says, "My dog’s cross-eyed, is there anything you can do for him?"      "Well," says the vet, "let’s have a look at him." So he picks the dog up and examines his eyes, then checks his       teeth. Finally, he says, "I’m going to have to put him down." "What? Because he’s cross-eyed?"       "No, because he’s really heavy." 13. I went to buy some camouflage trousers the other day but I couldn’t find any. 14. I went to the butcher’s the other day and I bet him 50 bucks that he couldn’t reach the meat off the top shelf.     He said, "No, the steaks are too high." 15 . I went to a seafood disco last week… and pulled a mussel. 16 . What do you call a fish with no eyes? A fsh. 17 . Two termites walk into a bar. One asks, "Is the bar tender here?"

18. Two thieves stole a calendar . . . they each got 6 months 19. The short fortuneteller who escaped from prison was a small medium at large. 20. So I said to this train driver "I want to go to Paris". He said "Eurostar?". I said "I’ve been on telly but I’m no Dean Martin". 21. So I said to the Gym instructor "Can you teach me to do the splits?". He said "How flexible are you?". I said "I can’t make Tuesdays". 22. Police arrested two kids yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. 23. I was shopping around for a car, and one salesman says, "You look like the kind of guy who’d want the AM/FM radio with removable face plate, the trunk-mounted Cd player, with 8 speakers and remote contol."   I hate being stereotyped. (David Reihmer) 24. How is holy water made? You take regular water, and you boil the hell out of it. Jan Hyde (VB MVP) — I went to the butchers the other day and I bet him 50 quid that he couldn’t reach the meat off the top shelf. He said, "No, the steaks are too high." [Abolish the TV License - http://www.tvlicensing.biz/]

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some good ones there! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – following fruit: 17 REALLY AWFUL PUNS 1. Two antennas meet on a roof, fall in love and get married. The ceremony wasn’t much, but the reception was excellent. 2. Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. One says, "I’ve lost my electron," The other says, "Are you sure?"    The first replies, "Yes, I’m positive…" 3. A jumper cable walks into a bar. The bartender says, "I’ll serve you, but don’t start anything." 4. Two peanuts walk into a bar, and one was a salted. 5. A sandwich walks into a bar. The bartender says, "Sorry we don’t serve food in here." 6. A dyslexic man walks into a bra. 7. A man walks into a bar with a slab of asphalt under his arm and says: "A beer please, and one for the road." 8. Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?" 9. "Doc, I can’t stop singing ‘The Green, Green Grass of Home. That sounds like Tom Jones Syndrome," "Is it     common?" Doc says "It’s Not Unusual." 10. Two cows standing next to each other in a field, Daisy says to Dolly, "I was artificially inseminated       this morning," "I don’t believe you," said Dolly. "It’s true, no bull!" exclaimed Daisy. 11. An invisible man marries an invisible woman. The kids were nothing to look at either. 12. A man takes his Rottweiler to the vet and says, "My dog’s cross-eyed, is there anything you can do for him?"      "Well," says the vet, "let’s have a look at him." So he picks the dog up and examines his eyes, then checks his       teeth. Finally, he says, "I’m going to have to put him down." "What? Because he’s cross-eyed?"       "No, because he’s really heavy." 13. I went to buy some camouflage trousers the other day but I couldn’t find any. 14. I went to the butcher’s the other day and I bet him 50 bucks that he couldn’t reach the meat off the top shelf.     He said, "No, the steaks are too high." 15 . I went to a seafood disco last week… and pulled a mussel. 16 . What do you call a fish with no eyes? A fsh. 17 . Two termites walk into a bar. One asks, "Is the bar tender here?" 18. Two thieves stole a calendar . . . they each got 6 months 19. The short fortuneteller who escaped from prison was a small medium at large. 20. So I said to this train driver "I want to go to Paris". He said "Eurostar?". I said "I’ve been on telly but I’m no Dean Martin". 21. So I said to the Gym instructor "Can you teach me to do the splits?". He said "How flexible are you?". I said "I can’t make Tuesdays". 22. Police arrested two kids yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. 23. I was shopping around for a car, and one salesman says, "You look like the kind of guy who’d want the AM/FM radio with removable face plate, the trunk-mounted Cd player, with 8 speakers and remote contol."   I hate being stereotyped. (David Reihmer) 24. How is holy water made? You take regular water, and you boil the hell out of it. Jan Hyde (VB MVP)

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Scleroderma Conference

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It was great, as usual.  Wonderful presentations and workshops, and we all learned a lot.  The most talked-about thing I heard of was the chocolate fountain at the reception!  Put your CA strawberry on a stick and hold it under there for a coating.  Yum!  Some folks had said they’d seen it before at a wedding reception and that chocolate fountains and brides in huge white dresses do not mix well! Dr Korn’s article at http://scleroderma.org/ talks about the current research strategies he described for us in his presentation.  The hotel staff was really wonderful to us.  This wasn’t a coincidence – the GM’s mom has scleroderma!  Bill Waranius was given the Lifetime Acheivement award posthumously, which was both very sad and very gratifying.  I think all us "regulars" missed him and Fran.  Speaking of that, more than half of the attendees were first-timers! The chapters gave over $300,000 to National for research over and above their usual yearly contribution.  I know for my chapter this was made possible by a great walk-a-thon event this year in Youngstown (OH) so thanks to all there! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Doris wrote: >Like they say memory goes first-so I will try to remember to be at the chat >tonight. >Anything interesting from this year’s conference. >Doris

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Like they say memory goes first-so I will try to remember to be at the chat tonight. Anything interesting from this year’s conference. Doris

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My "American" adventure

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money (zlotys to dollars) and measurements (kilos to lbs.) so it could be prices were similar to Poland. I do know that I’ve been hit with sticker shock here in Poland since we joined the EU May 1 and I went shopping a couple of days ago. Wow.  Ground beef has jumped 1/3 and many prices have risen drastically.  

I find poultry to be similar prices as DK and pork is more expensive (but who cares, hehe, I’ve eaten prok almost every day my entire life), and beef and shellfish is dirt cheap. I’ve not eaten much else than beef and occasional shellfish since I got here. Lamb is cheaper here too, and I did make some rosemary lamb chops sometimes, too. Just took a "ranchers reserve top round roast" out of the freezer. It is $2.49 a pound! Becky replies, It’s probably perspective and definitely IMO. Once again, if I were living in Denmark or France, probably my comments would be different, but I’m not in a country that has particularly tasty sweet breads (IMO). Thus, by comparison, the cakes are delicious in the states (esp. Publix).  Most prepackaged processed stuff, no, but the bakery stuff, yes.

Bakeries are hard to find outside the grocery stores, and at the grocery store bakeries they mostly use artificial ingredients. I’m not really big into exotic stuff anywhere, here or the states, so bakeries and I aren’t great friends, but I’ve tried (in the states in years past) all the basic donuts and maple bars, apple fritters, etc. and I think that they are really good.

I do like the custard filled doughnuts.

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Well, there aren’t many really normal-sized small adult people in the US.  So, smaller (either lighter or thinner or not as tall) people do have trouble shopping.

Guess and Gap and the more special fashion stores has plenty of small clothing.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – snip .. First sizing. I was curious what size I would wear with the current clothes.  I was still about 140 lbs–5′-5.5", so I’m not "teeny tiny" okay?  I want to say that I feel sorry for someone who is truly small…where do they shop? The Junior’s section of the store with faddish clothes? My waist was still measuring about 28" which means that I need probably 29" waist measure on a skirt/pants. I picked up a pair of name brand jeans, size 12 at a yard sale (I’ve got a pear shaped figure), which fit okay, but they were used. I was interested in "new" clothes. I was just scared when I went to the store to actually pay that much for clothes! But, I found an "M" in a BigK (Basic Editions brand) shirt was just fine–10/12, I suppose.  But, I found a "Small" Petite Sophisticate shirt at Goodwill that was okay.  I tried on dresses from 8-12. 14 was definitely too big and just sloppy feeling, which was wonderful. Mostly I needed dresses about a size 8-10 and skirts in a size 12.  I could probably fit in the waist in a smaller skirt size skirt, as I did get a size 8 one, but my hips still won’t squeeze into a smaller size without it being too tight (for me).  I still had some of my JCPenney’s gift cards to use (given to me a year ago) so I ended up buying a size 10 skirt and a size 12 skirt, which had measurements the same throught the hips (I had my tape measure with me)…same brand, just different colors.  ??? My "L" shirts are definitely too big. However, "loose" clothe are a nice feeling, so I’ll gradually replace my classic "L" shirts" as I get the opportunity. i was in the US for abt two weeks in May too. i can’t believe the sizing either. i’m an Asian size 8 (/6) but, apparently, in the USA i’m a size 4.  i also can’t imagine where really normal-sized small adult people shop.  the other thing i can’t believe is (that is totally irrelevent) – i can’t believe oprah is a size 12, at least that’s what she said on her show two weeks ago. she looks like a (US) size 6 to me. Well, there aren’t many really normal-sized small adult people in the US.  So, smaller (either lighter or thinner or not as tall) people do have trouble shopping.  So did large or tall people, but they have shops for those.

I consider myself normal to small at this point and I have not problem finding clothing.  I shop at places like Eddie Bauer. — jmk in NC

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – snip .. First sizing. I was curious what size I would wear with the current clothes.  I was still about 140 lbs–5′-5.5", so I’m not "teeny tiny" okay?  I want to say that I feel sorry for someone who is truly small…where do they shop? The Junior’s section of the store with faddish clothes? My waist was still measuring about 28" which means that I need probably 29" waist measure on a skirt/pants. I picked up a pair of name brand jeans, size 12 at a yard sale (I’ve got a pear shaped figure), which fit okay, but they were used. I was interested in "new" clothes. I was just scared when I went to the store to actually pay that much for clothes! But, I found an "M" in a BigK (Basic Editions brand) shirt was just fine–10/12, I suppose.  But, I found a "Small" Petite Sophisticate shirt at Goodwill that was okay.  I tried on dresses from 8-12. 14 was definitely too big and just sloppy feeling, which was wonderful. Mostly I needed dresses about a size 8-10 and skirts in a size 12.  I could probably fit in the waist in a smaller skirt size skirt, as I did get a size 8 one, but my hips still won’t squeeze into a smaller size without it being too tight (for me).  I still had some of my JCPenney’s gift cards to use (given to me a year ago) so I ended up buying a size 10 skirt and a size 12 skirt, which had measurements the same throught the hips (I had my tape measure with me)…same brand, just different colors.  ??? My "L" shirts are definitely too big. However, "loose" clothe are a nice feeling, so I’ll gradually replace my classic "L" shirts" as I get the opportunity. i was in the US for abt two weeks in May too. i can’t believe the sizing either. i’m an Asian size 8 (/6) but, apparently, in the USA i’m a size 4.  i also can’t imagine where really normal-sized small adult people shop.  the other thing i can’t believe is (that is totally irrelevent) – i can’t believe oprah is a size 12, at least that’s what she said on her show two weeks ago. she looks like a (US) size 6 to me.

Well, there aren’t many really normal-sized small adult people in the US.   So, smaller (either lighter or thinner or not as tall) people do have trouble shopping.  So did large or tall people, but they have shops for those. — Bob in CT

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Overall, I thought meat prices quite high in the states, and was kind of in sticker shock.

Really? I think it is dirt cheap. The hardest thing about being in the states, is that the food is so good! The breads and sweets are so tasty.

Really (again)? I’ve found that you really have to know what to go for to get something decent. Like getting a cake with cream instead of soybean shortening, or bread without it for that matter. They add strange stuff to everything here, if you don’t know which brands to go for. And you have to bribe them bigtime (= pay a lot extra for it) not to add those strange things.

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Archon said (about meat), Really? I think it is dirt cheap.

The truth is, it is all perspective. Chicken in the states is much cheaper than in Poland, esp. leg quarters. However, beef, esp. by the pound seemed more expensive. But once again, it is perspective. A person can’t help compare what you are used to prices with what you see. Also, I’m changing money (zlotys to dollars) and measurements (kilos to lbs.) so it could be prices were similar to Poland. I do know that I’ve been hit with sticker shock here in Poland since we joined the EU May 1 and I went shopping a couple of days ago. Wow.  Ground beef has jumped 1/3 and many prices have risen drastically.   Archon said (about tasty sweets and breads), "Really (again)? I’ve found that you really have to know what to go for to get something decent." Becky replies, It’s probably perspective and definitely IMO. Once again, if I were living in Denmark or France, probably my comments would be different, but I’m not in a country that has particularly tasty sweet breads (IMO). Thus, by comparison, the cakes are delicious in the states (esp. Publix).  Most prepackaged processed stuff, no, but the bakery stuff, yes.  However, if I were living in France, that would probably be a different story, and I know from personal experience that the "Danish pastries" in Denmark are delicious as we were there in 1997 and tried them from a sidewalk pastry shop we walked by just "to see" if they were as good as their reputation. Certainly I’ve heard the same about French pastries, but I’ve never tried them. Poland has great bread (basic stuff, if eaten fresh) but IMO, that’s about all.  Their donuts and sweet breads certainly don’t leave me wanting more. :) I’m not really big into exotic stuff anywhere, here or the states, so bakeries and I aren’t great friends, but I’ve tried (in the states in years past) all the basic donuts and maple bars, apple fritters, etc. and I think that they are really good. I don’t know what you are talking about, about soybean shortening.  Sounds horrible to me, but obviously to someone, it must be good. But then, if everyone ate and shopped like I did, the grocery stores would only offer very basic foods and most processed food companies would probably go broke. Becky P.

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snip .. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – First sizing. I was curious what size I would wear with the current clothes.  I was still about 140 lbs–5′-5.5", so I’m not "teeny tiny" okay?  I want to say that I feel sorry for someone who is truly small…where do they shop? The Junior’s section of the store with faddish clothes? My waist was still measuring about 28" which means that I need probably 29" waist measure on a skirt/pants. I picked up a pair of name brand jeans, size 12 at a yard sale (I’ve got a pear shaped figure), which fit okay, but they were used. I was interested in "new" clothes. I was just scared when I went to the store to actually pay that much for clothes! But, I found an "M" in a BigK (Basic Editions brand) shirt was just fine–10/12, I suppose.  But, I found a "Small" Petite Sophisticate shirt at Goodwill that was okay.  I tried on dresses from 8-12. 14 was definitely too big and just sloppy feeling, which was wonderful. Mostly I needed dresses about a size 8-10 and skirts in a size 12.  I could probably fit in the waist in a smaller skirt size skirt, as I did get a size 8 one, but my hips still won’t squeeze into a smaller size without it being too tight (for me).  I still had some of my JCPenney’s gift cards to use (given to me a year ago) so I ended up buying a size 10 skirt and a size 12 skirt, which had measurements the same throught the hips (I had my tape measure with me)…same brand, just different colors.  ??? My "L" shirts are definitely too big. However, "loose" clothe are a nice feeling, so I’ll gradually replace my classic "L" shirts" as I get the opportunity.

i was in the US for abt two weeks in May too. i can’t believe the sizing either. i’m an Asian size 8 (/6) but, apparently, in the USA i’m a size 4.  i also can’t imagine where really normal-sized small adult people shop.  the other thing i can’t believe is (that is totally irrelevent) – i can’t believe oprah is a size 12, at least that’s what she said on her show two weeks ago. she looks like a (US) size 6 to me. About LC foods and dieting in the states.   I personally think I have an eaiser time sticking to my diet here in Poland.

 i disagree with this- i would definitely be able to low-carb "better" in the US.   the thing about low carb being so mainstream in the US is the incredible amount of options you have.   it’s not just food (and not just frankenfood either – we don’t even have sugarLESS soy milk here), it’s also the fact that there are low carb magazines, that there are low carb tips on news shows, it’s that low carb isn’t "strange" any more.  I was at Las Vegas (where i saw some of the fattest people i’ve ever seen) and every buffet had a sugar free dessert section (it looked like crap but still, the option was there should i ever have wanted to have some – i like that). lucky for me idon’t have a sweet tooth so once for any kind of low carb desert is usually enough – there aren’t any really good ones that i found. this krispy kreme phenomenon is also lost on me – i don’t get it.  one of the things i also really like is the variety of diet sodas – yes i konw water is my friend but if you’ve only had diet coke as your one diet drink for the last two years, you’ll really appreciate the luxury of having a different diet soda to choose from every day of the week. now the coffee is a different thing though … that’s just terrible most everywhere, even New York  (and btw why do you people say "cream" when you mean "milk" ? :) i.e. at a macdonalds or something when they ask if you want "Cream" with your coffee, they actually mean some kind of watery milk?)

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Hi. After being in America for 2 weeks having lost over 50 lbs, I wanted to report back to this group about two things…LC foods and sizing. I could have reported a couple of weeks ago, but I had some "running" to do to catch back up on the garden and other things after being gone for 2 weeks. Here are my opinions. First sizing. I was curious what size I would wear with the current clothes.  I was still about 140 lbs–5′-5.5", so I’m not "teeny tiny" okay?  I want to say that I feel sorry for someone who is truly small…where do they shop? The Junior’s section of the store with faddish clothes? My waist was still measuring about 28" which means that I need probably 29" waist measure on a skirt/pants. I picked up a pair of name brand jeans, size 12 at a yard sale (I’ve got a pear shaped figure), which fit okay, but they were used. I was interested in "new" clothes. I was just scared when I went to the store to actually pay that much for clothes! But, I found an "M" in a BigK (Basic Editions brand) shirt was just fine–10/12, I suppose.  But, I found a "Small" Petite Sophisticate shirt at Goodwill that was okay.  I tried on dresses from 8-12. 14 was definitely too big and just sloppy feeling, which was wonderful. Mostly I needed dresses about a size 8-10 and skirts in a size 12.  I could probably fit in the waist in a smaller skirt size skirt, as I did get a size 8 one, but my hips still won’t squeeze into a smaller size without it being too tight (for me).  I still had some of my JCPenney’s gift cards to use (given to me a year ago) so I ended up buying a size 10 skirt and a size 12 skirt, which had measurements the same throught the hips (I had my tape measure with me)…same brand, just different colors.  ??? My "L" shirts are definitely too big. However, "loose" clothe are a nice feeling, so I’ll gradually replace my classic "L" shirts" as I get the opportunity. About LC foods and dieting in the states.   I personally think I have an eaiser time sticking to my diet here in Poland. I tried an Atkins bar, at $2.25 it was painful to do it, but I wanted to try it. Definitely not "$2.25" worth to me. I tried for the best looking one I could, but didn’t want to "waste" that much money looking for a tasty one. I didn’ think it tasted like "crap" to me…just not particularly good.  I also tried a Hershey’s candy bar which was supposed to be LC. It was only "ok" to me. Definitely the prices are too high, for the taste return.  I’d rather splurge on a "real" candy bar like a Snickers, or fix my LC chocolate ice cream to get my chocolate "fix" that I need from time to time. Then, I decided to try the Carb Options (I think)ice cream bars.  I think there were 6 in the box for about $5. I ate 3 the first time (I think it was net carbs 5 for each one). They tasted like ice milk to me, not full fat, were tiny, and once, again, not a good "return" on the money.  (Maybe I’m just not used to all those processed foods anymore.)  I didn’t check out what a regular ice cream bar was (carbwise) but possibly eating 1/2 regular ice cream sandwich/bar might result in the same feeling of satiety than those were. While they "tasted" good–they were little bigger than a silver dollar.  Anything "that small" isn’t going to be "that many" carbs simply by virtue of the fact that it is so small as well as using aritifical sweetener. I don’t have a problem with artificial sweeteners, just wasn’t really happy with what I got for the money.     Overall, I thought meat prices quite high in the states, and was kind of in sticker shock. However, I loved the variety of diet sodas and enjoyed buying Diet Vanilla Pepsi, Diet Coke with Lime (as recommended by someone here) and trying out Diet Sunkist, Diet Rite, etc.  That was fun. I could get used to that. Plus, soda pop is cheaper in the states than here. However, the first time I went into a thrift store to check out some clothes, they had some Thomas English Muffins and bagels in a basket, giving them away (figuring, I guess, if you were shopping there you needed to be given food).  I took some back to my parents, and I even ate one or two bagels a day. I have to admit that they were "worth" every carb (Cinnamon Raisin). I had been determined not to "gain it all" back as I had to be in good shape for a conference which was starting the day after my arrival back in Poland (different post). I did okay, considering we went to Golden Corral, Pizza Hut, had anniversary cake, and even tried a DQ Blizzard while I was there. I didn’t feel like I overate, mostly, which was a great step in the right direction in learning to "live in the real world" of carby foods. My mom didn’t know how to feed me though, and sometimes I think it was stressful to her for me to be there, as they eat a lot of mac and cheese, and she’s into Low Fat. I tried to modify what I ate, and just be considerate of them, as I was there visiting "them" and didn’t want to put her out, as it was their 50th wedding anniversary and supposed to be a special time for them, not a stressful time. But, I did enjoy the seemingly cheap tomatoes which are in FL at the flea markets (nice big baskets for $1, which is 4 or 5 very large tomatoes) and tasty cantalopes for 50cents to $1 each (I didn’t even worry about carb count on those)!   I found DaVinci syrup at Marshalls as recommended by you all. Thanks. I didn’t find any fruit flavored, though, only chocolate, caramel, etc.  I realize it varies. I saw regular DaVinci syrup at Big Lots, but not SF. SF jello or clones were a great deal considering how much it costs to "make it" from gelatin, koolaid and sweetener which is what i have to do here if I want it. There, Walgreens had some on sale while I was there and Save-A-Lot sells it cheaply all the time. The hardest thing about being in the states, is that the food is so good! The breads and sweets are so tasty. Here in Poland, frankly, their sweet breads and cakes all look better than they taste. So, one taste of them and it is easy to remember next time, "it’s not worth it".  However, my parents’ Publix wedding (annivesary) cake was every bit as "good as it looked".  :)  Since eliminating temptation certainly helps a person resist temptation, I think I’ve had an unfair advantage over my twin sister who has also been on a diet but surrounded by reasonably cheap restaurants, great donuts and sweet, tasty, fattening foods.  :)   I think that my opinion of the LC supermarket situation in the states is that the number of choices is overwhelming. I did buy some Misson LC tortillas to bring back with me, and definitely recommend them!  I like Mexican food and it is probably about the only thing that I would bring back again (besides Splenda and Equal).   I’ve learned tons here and certainly I wouldn’t have found the LC tortillas if it hadn’t been someone recommending them here.  I wish I knew how to make them with ingredients we can get here in Poland. :) Becky P. www.family.solidrockpl.org

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Palazzo Pants "Formal" on Diamond Princess?

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Almost new to cruising.  First time for formal evenings.  Do women ever wear long, flowing, silky pants with dress shoes for formal dining?  What are other ways to not wear stockings and dresses? Thanks!

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Yes, they do.  The range of dress on formal evenings is very broad. Lots of women wear pants (and not always such dressy ones); black is especially popular.  Long skirts are an easy way to get around stockings too. Try not to wear something so casual it will make you or other people uncomfortable, but otherwise do your own thing.         Eileen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Almost new to cruising.  First time for formal evenings.  Do women ever wear long, flowing, silky pants with dress shoes for formal dining?  What are other ways to not wear stockings and dresses? Thanks!

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What are other ways to not wear stockings and dresses?

Wasn’t there a thread about a swingers cruise the other day "Anything that doesn’t kill you,,,,,,,just hurts a hell of a lot" JLP20

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Almost new to cruising.  First time for formal evenings.  Do women ever wear long, flowing, silky pants with dress shoes for formal dining?

Sure. I have some black chiffony palazzos that I’ll wear for formal night – usually with a sparkly or beaded top, or something like that. What are other ways to not wear stockings and dresses?

Not sure I understand the question…just don’t wear stockings if you don’t want to. There are no stocking police, far as I know. Are they just uncomfortable for you? Have you tried thigh highs? They’re available at Victoria’s Secret and they’re great! They’re like a knee-high but they extend to mid-thigh height and stay up with a grippy material on the inside of the top section. Really comfortable and they don’t move. You look like you’re wearing full hose. Lee – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks!

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Almost new to cruising.  First time for formal evenings.  Do women ever wear long, flowing, silky pants with dress shoes for formal dining?  What are other ways to not wear stockings and dresses?

Yes, palazzo pants are fine for formal wear. Nice slacks with dressy blouses/tops are also quite common for formal night. You will also note, looking at, say the women dressed for the oscars, that stockings not only aren’t necessary, but haven’t been "in" in several years with dresses. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks!

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You will also note, looking at, say the women dressed for the oscars, that stockings not only aren’t necessary, but haven’t been "in" in several years with dresses.

Artificial fingernails haven’t been in for many years, either, but if you look at cruise photos online, you’ll often see those dreadful-looking things on a lot of the women.  They look so ugly and low-class and they aren’t sanitary. On the other hand, pot bellies aren’t in fashion, but those are over-represented in cruise photos online, too. ;-)

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Eileen, I always wear the kind of pants you’re talking about on formal nights. I don’t even own a skirt or dress and find these are extremely comfortable.  You won’t be the only one wearing them. Gayle – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Almost new to cruising.  First time for formal evenings.  Do women ever wear long, flowing, silky pants with dress shoes for formal dining?  What are other ways to not wear stockings and dresses? Thanks!

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There are no stocking police, far as I know.

Teehee, Lee – I’ll bet there’d be lots of volunteers for THAT job.         Eileen

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Artificial fingernails haven’t been in for many years, either, but if you look at cruise photos online, you’ll often see those dreadful-looking things on a lot of the women.  They look so ugly and low-class

I got rid of my sculptured nails in July, after wearing them for 15 years. If you look at "movie star" photos, they are wearing short, manicured nails polished in pale colors and you can barely see the color of their lipstick.  I need a little more color on my face than what they wear. Becca  <—–wears more make-up than Tammy Fay Bakker… Sleazy3 http://www.cruisemaster.com/sleazy3.htm MOAGC http://www.motherofallgroupcruises.com/

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I’m hopelessly addicted to jumpsuits, and tonight I will be packing  4 of them, two of which are suitable for formal nights (DH wears a dark suit).  Get a fabulous pedicure and pretty strappy sandals, and there’s no reason to suffer the restrictions of pantyhose. Candy <– starting to panic – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Almost new to cruising.  First time for formal evenings.  Do women ever wear long, flowing, silky pants with dress shoes for formal dining?  What are other ways to not wear stockings and dresses? Thanks!

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Artificial fingernails haven’t been in for many years, either, but if you look at cruise photos online, you’ll often see those dreadful-looking things on a lot of the women.  They look so ugly and low-class I got rid of my sculptured nails in July, after wearing them for 15 years.

Good for you!  Better late than never! If you look at "movie star" photos, they are wearing short, manicured nails polished in pale colors and you can barely see the color of their lipstick.  I need a little more color on my face than what they wear. Becca  <—–wears more make-up than Tammy Fay Bakker…

LOL, but I’ll bet you aren’t a crybaby, so we won’t see the streaks. ;-)

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Becca  <—–wears more make-up than Tammy Fay Bakker…

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Becca  <—–wears more make-up than Tammy Fay Bakker<

Even now when Tammy Faye has inoperable lung cancer?

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I’m SURE that Tammy Faye still wears all her make-up — perhaps even moreso, to help her feel better. Mark

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Becca  <—–wears more make-up than Tammy Fay Bakker< Even now when Tammy Faye has inoperable lung cancer?

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I’m hopelessly addicted to jumpsuits, and tonight I will be packing  4 of them, two of which are suitable for formal nights (DH wears a dark suit).  Get a fabulous pedicure and pretty strappy sandals, and there’s no reason to suffer the restrictions of pantyhose. Candy <– starting to panic

But Candy, aren’t you the mistress of the packing list?  Don’t panic – and enjoy your cruise!         Eileen

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The Packing List is an ever-evolving monsterpiece… the problem is that it’s so lengthy, I have a problem NOT taking all of it! I’m getting there, though… the clothes were actually easy; it’s the bathroom cr*p I dread. Candy <– hasn’t cooked in two weeks but has done plenty of laundry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m hopelessly addicted to jumpsuits, and tonight I will be packing  4 of them, two of which are suitable for formal nights (DH wears a dark suit).  Get a fabulous pedicure and pretty strappy sandals, and there’s no reason to suffer the restrictions of pantyhose. Candy <– starting to panic But Candy, aren’t you the mistress of the packing list?  Don’t panic – and enjoy your cruise!     Eileen

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The Packing List is an ever-evolving monsterpiece… the problem is that it’s so lengthy, I have a problem NOT taking all of it!

I know what ya mean; I keep my list on the computer and add or delete for each trip; that helps me from getting too bored by always taking the same stuff. I’m getting there, though… the clothes were actually easy; it’s the bathroom cr*p I dread.

A friend who travels a lot taught me how to deal with this one.  I have duplicates of most all toiletries and I keep then in a case that’s always ready to go.  All I have to add in for a trip is the makeup I use on a daily basis for which I don’t have duplicates. Candy <– hasn’t cooked in two weeks but has done plenty of laundry

Hah, I haven’t done much of either in two YEARS, and I can’t say I missed them.  There are SOME advantages to being ill.         Eileen

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Good idea on paper, Eileen, and if I wasn’t a cosmetics packrat, it’d be a great time-saving idea.  I remember on our first cruise (Seawind Crown, 1996, smallest inside closet over the screws) I had one entire small suitcase filled with every beauty potion known to mankind.  Most of it stayed under the bed for the whole week. Candy <– gotta go lose 10 pounds before Saturday – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – …snip… I’m getting there, though… the clothes were actually easy; it’s the bathroom cr*p I dread. A friend who travels a lot taught me how to deal with this one.  I have duplicates of most all toiletries and I keep then in a case that’s always ready to go.  All I have to add in for a trip is the makeup I use on a daily basis for which I don’t have duplicates.

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Candy <– gotta go lose 10 pounds before Saturday

If you figure out how to lose 20lbs before saturday, please share the secret with me(grin). Have a great cruise! sue

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TWENTY POUNDS?   How did you know it’s really 20 and not just 10?  I’m getting too well-known here! Candy <– knows the clothes will fit for at least the first coupla days – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Candy <– gotta go lose 10 pounds before Saturday If you figure out how to lose 20lbs before saturday, please share the secret with me(grin). Have a great cruise! sue

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LOL…..just a typo on my part, it should of read 10lbs. sue – hopes to meet Candy some day!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TWENTY POUNDS?   How did you know it’s really 20 and not just 10?  I’m getting too well-known here! Candy <– knows the clothes will fit for at least the first coupla days Candy <– gotta go lose 10 pounds before Saturday If you figure out how to lose 20lbs before saturday, please share the secret with me(grin). Have a great cruise! sue

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Candy Have a blast. still look fab S’nd I XXX

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I’m SURE that Tammy Faye still wears all her make-up — perhaps even moreso, to help her feel better.

Tammy Faye, our comical little evangelizing queen. Bless her heart.  It is difficult for me to hate her, no matter how much money she looted. Becca  <—–hopes for the best… Sleazy3 http://www.cruisemaster.com/sleazy3.htm MOAGC http://www.motherofallgroupcruises.com/

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Hey Candy, in response to you wanting to lose 10 lbs before Dr. Agaston’s book, The South Beach Diet with me on a cruise.  Read the whole thing while standing in line at the many, many buffets. :-) . Started the diet when we came home and lost 13 lbs in Phase ! which was for 2 weeks.  Went on another cruise the 1st of December for 11 days.  I only gained back 5 lbs, but it must have been a lot of water since I lost it all AND more by the end of one week.  Now 6 months later I have lost 46 lbs and have never been hungry.  Gone from size 16-18 to size 10-12.  Feeling GREAT and NEVER take an elevator again.  At 64 yrs old I feel like a kid again.  This is NOT  an Atkins diet.   ~Dory~

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Hmmm, I am reading several women  posting  in this "palazzo pants" thread that  say they find stockings or panty hose "uncomfortable" or find panty hose "restricting"……well, then, if they find them so then they are wearing the wrong size and/or style.  Panty hose should not even be felt when you wear them……yes, and the thigh highs are great I just finished watching a four hour transmission of the royal wedding in Madrid, and  my eyes where so pleased to see so many chic  women wearing short at the knee  dresses and mostly very light colored hose and heels (it is spring, after all )  and….well, looking exquisitely feminine. That is also  my style and I wear it happily and with no do women seem to want them all the time?  We have legs, show them, for goodness sake, and formal nights on cruises are a wonderful time to wear that short  little simple but perfect dress, and show  some feminine leg with  the gleam of sheer hose…….and it is comfortable and easy to wear  if  you get  the right style and fit for your

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Almost new to cruising.  First time for formal evenings.  Do women ever wear long, flowing, silky pants with dress shoes for formal dining?  What are other ways to not wear stockings and dresses? Thanks!

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Yes, they do.  The range of dress on formal evenings is very broad. Lots of women wear pants (and not always such dressy ones); black is especially popular.  Long skirts are an easy way to get around stockings too. Try not to wear something so casual it will make you or other people uncomfortable, but otherwise do your own thing.         Eileen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Almost new to cruising.  First time for formal evenings.  Do women ever wear long, flowing, silky pants with dress shoes for formal dining?  What are other ways to not wear stockings and dresses? Thanks!

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What are other ways to not wear stockings and dresses?

Wasn’t there a thread about a swingers cruise the other day "Anything that doesn’t kill you,,,,,,,just hurts a hell of a lot" JLP20

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Almost new to cruising.  First time for formal evenings.  Do women ever wear long, flowing, silky pants with dress shoes for formal dining?

Sure. I have some black chiffony palazzos that I’ll wear for formal night – usually with a sparkly or beaded top, or something like that. What are other ways to not wear stockings and dresses?

Not sure I understand the question…just don’t wear stockings if you don’t want to. There are no stocking police, far as I know. Are they just uncomfortable for you? Have you tried thigh highs? They’re available at Victoria’s Secret and they’re great! They’re like a knee-high but they extend to mid-thigh height and stay up with a grippy material on the inside of the top section. Really comfortable and they don’t move. You look like you’re wearing full hose. Lee – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks!

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Almost new to cruising.  First time for formal evenings.  Do women ever wear long, flowing, silky pants with dress shoes for formal dining?  What are other ways to not wear stockings and dresses?

Yes, palazzo pants are fine for formal wear. Nice slacks with dressy blouses/tops are also quite common for formal night. You will also note, looking at, say the women dressed for the oscars, that stockings not only aren’t necessary, but haven’t been "in" in several years with dresses. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks!

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You will also note, looking at, say the women dressed for the oscars, that stockings not only aren’t necessary, but haven’t been "in" in several years with dresses.

Artificial fingernails haven’t been in for many years, either, but if you look at cruise photos online, you’ll often see those dreadful-looking things on a lot of the women.  They look so ugly and low-class and they aren’t sanitary. On the other hand, pot bellies aren’t in fashion, but those are over-represented in cruise photos online, too. ;-)

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Eileen, I always wear the kind of pants you’re talking about on formal nights. I don’t even own a skirt or dress and find these are extremely comfortable.  You won’t be the only one wearing them. Gayle – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Almost new to cruising.  First time for formal evenings.  Do women ever wear long, flowing, silky pants with dress shoes for formal dining?  What are other ways to not wear stockings and dresses? Thanks!

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There are no stocking police, far as I know.

Teehee, Lee – I’ll bet there’d be lots of volunteers for THAT job.         Eileen

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Artificial fingernails haven’t been in for many years, either, but if you look at cruise photos online, you’ll often see those dreadful-looking things on a lot of the women.  They look so ugly and low-class

I got rid of my sculptured nails in July, after wearing them for 15 years. If you look at "movie star" photos, they are wearing short, manicured nails polished in pale colors and you can barely see the color of their lipstick.  I need a little more color on my face than what they wear. Becca  <—–wears more make-up than Tammy Fay Bakker… Sleazy3 http://www.cruisemaster.com/sleazy3.htm MOAGC http://www.motherofallgroupcruises.com/

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I’m hopelessly addicted to jumpsuits, and tonight I will be packing  4 of them, two of which are suitable for formal nights (DH wears a dark suit).  Get a fabulous pedicure and pretty strappy sandals, and there’s no reason to suffer the restrictions of pantyhose. Candy <– starting to panic – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Almost new to cruising.  First time for formal evenings.  Do women ever wear long, flowing, silky pants with dress shoes for formal dining?  What are other ways to not wear stockings and dresses? Thanks!

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Artificial fingernails haven’t been in for many years, either, but if you look at cruise photos online, you’ll often see those dreadful-looking things on a lot of the women.  They look so ugly and low-class I got rid of my sculptured nails in July, after wearing them for 15 years.

Good for you!  Better late than never! If you look at "movie star" photos, they are wearing short, manicured nails polished in pale colors and you can barely see the color of their lipstick.  I need a little more color on my face than what they wear. Becca  <—–wears more make-up than Tammy Fay Bakker…

LOL, but I’ll bet you aren’t a crybaby, so we won’t see the streaks. ;-)

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Becca  <—–wears more make-up than Tammy Fay Bakker…

rotf

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Becca  <—–wears more make-up than Tammy Fay Bakker<

Even now when Tammy Faye has inoperable lung cancer?

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I’m SURE that Tammy Faye still wears all her make-up — perhaps even moreso, to help her feel better. Mark

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Becca  <—–wears more make-up than Tammy Fay Bakker< Even now when Tammy Faye has inoperable lung cancer?

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I’m hopelessly addicted to jumpsuits, and tonight I will be packing  4 of them, two of which are suitable for formal nights (DH wears a dark suit).  Get a fabulous pedicure and pretty strappy sandals, and there’s no reason to suffer the restrictions of pantyhose. Candy <– starting to panic

But Candy, aren’t you the mistress of the packing list?  Don’t panic – and enjoy your cruise!         Eileen

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The Packing List is an ever-evolving monsterpiece… the problem is that it’s so lengthy, I have a problem NOT taking all of it! I’m getting there, though… the clothes were actually easy; it’s the bathroom cr*p I dread. Candy <– hasn’t cooked in two weeks but has done plenty of laundry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m hopelessly addicted to jumpsuits, and tonight I will be packing  4 of them, two of which are suitable for formal nights (DH wears a dark suit).  Get a fabulous pedicure and pretty strappy sandals, and there’s no reason to suffer the restrictions of pantyhose. Candy <– starting to panic But Candy, aren’t you the mistress of the packing list?  Don’t panic – and enjoy your cruise!     Eileen

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The Packing List is an ever-evolving monsterpiece… the problem is that it’s so lengthy, I have a problem NOT taking all of it!

I know what ya mean; I keep my list on the computer and add or delete for each trip; that helps me from getting too bored by always taking the same stuff. I’m getting there, though… the clothes were actually easy; it’s the bathroom cr*p I dread.

A friend who travels a lot taught me how to deal with this one.  I have duplicates of most all toiletries and I keep then in a case that’s always ready to go.  All I have to add in for a trip is the makeup I use on a daily basis for which I don’t have duplicates. Candy <– hasn’t cooked in two weeks but has done plenty of laundry

Hah, I haven’t done much of either in two YEARS, and I can’t say I missed them.  There are SOME advantages to being ill.         Eileen

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Good idea on paper, Eileen, and if I wasn’t a cosmetics packrat, it’d be a great time-saving idea.  I remember on our first cruise (Seawind Crown, 1996, smallest inside closet over the screws) I had one entire small suitcase filled with every beauty potion known to mankind.  Most of it stayed under the bed for the whole week. Candy <– gotta go lose 10 pounds before Saturday – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – …snip… I’m getting there, though… the clothes were actually easy; it’s the bathroom cr*p I dread. A friend who travels a lot taught me how to deal with this one.  I have duplicates of most all toiletries and I keep then in a case that’s always ready to go.  All I have to add in for a trip is the makeup I use on a daily basis for which I don’t have duplicates.

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Candy <– gotta go lose 10 pounds before Saturday

If you figure out how to lose 20lbs before saturday, please share the secret with me(grin). Have a great cruise! sue

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TWENTY POUNDS?   How did you know it’s really 20 and not just 10?  I’m getting too well-known here! Candy <– knows the clothes will fit for at least the first coupla days – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Candy <– gotta go lose 10 pounds before Saturday If you figure out how to lose 20lbs before saturday, please share the secret with me(grin). Have a great cruise! sue

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LOL…..just a typo on my part, it should of read 10lbs. sue – hopes to meet Candy some day!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TWENTY POUNDS?   How did you know it’s really 20 and not just 10?  I’m getting too well-known here! Candy <– knows the clothes will fit for at least the first coupla days Candy <– gotta go lose 10 pounds before Saturday If you figure out how to lose 20lbs before saturday, please share the secret with me(grin). Have a great cruise! sue

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Candy Have a blast. still look fab S’nd I XXX

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I’m SURE that Tammy Faye still wears all her make-up — perhaps even moreso, to help her feel better.

Tammy Faye, our comical little evangelizing queen. Bless her heart.  It is difficult for me to hate her, no matter how much money she looted. Becca  <—–hopes for the best… Sleazy3 http://www.cruisemaster.com/sleazy3.htm MOAGC http://www.motherofallgroupcruises.com/

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Hey Candy, in response to you wanting to lose 10 lbs before Dr. Agaston’s book, The South Beach Diet with me on a cruise.  Read the whole thing while standing in line at the many, many buffets. :-) . Started the diet when we came home and lost 13 lbs in Phase ! which was for 2 weeks.  Went on another cruise the 1st of December for 11 days.  I only gained back 5 lbs, but it must have been a lot of water since I lost it all AND more by the end of one week.  Now 6 months later I have lost 46 lbs and have never been hungry.  Gone from size 16-18 to size 10-12.  Feeling GREAT and NEVER take an elevator again.  At 64 yrs old I feel like a kid again.  This is NOT  an Atkins diet.   ~Dory~

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Hmmm, I am reading several women  posting  in this "palazzo pants" thread that  say they find stockings or panty hose "uncomfortable" or find panty hose "restricting"……well, then, if they find them so then they are wearing the wrong size and/or style.  Panty hose should not even be felt when you wear them……yes, and the thigh highs are great I just finished watching a four hour transmission of the royal wedding in Madrid, and  my eyes where so pleased to see so many chic  women wearing short at the knee  dresses and mostly very light colored hose and heels (it is spring, after all )  and….well, looking exquisitely feminine. That is also  my style and I wear it happily and with no do women seem to want them all the time?  We have legs, show them, for goodness sake, and formal nights on cruises are a wonderful time to wear that short  little simple but perfect dress, and show  some feminine leg with  the gleam of sheer hose…….and it is comfortable and easy to wear  if  you get  the right style and fit for your

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How many exercise points are there in carpet scrubbing?

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Oh my, makes me really want to have kids soon… LOL… j/k.  :)  Cute story, Kate. — ~Kristin O~ 272/239.4/172

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Had a couple of disasters today… My son decided to decorate the house with soup at lunch time! Splattered the sofa, both the quilts on it and both throws, the floor (majorly!), and himself!  Luckily the soup wasn’t hot enough to scald, but after DH cleared the lumps and we shoved the quilts in the washer, I then spent 2 hours I SHOULD have spent in the sewing room scrubbing soup out of the carpet!  I count myself lucky that it didn’t hit the ceiling… Why do boys do this on days you have guests coming for supper?  AKK! Some days one boy is more bother than both cats! Trouble was that just as we were finishing the evening off nicely, Cornflake (the big stupid cat) threw up his dinner all over an as yet unscrubbed bit of carpet!  So there I was, on my knees again, scrubbing another square yard… I KNOW my living room carpet is in dire need of a good scrub all over (we live in a mid terrace house, and the lawn mower and everything have to come through the living room to get to the front garden.  It gets mucky.  Life is like that.), but I did NOT want to have to do it today! I was thinking some time in May would be good, when the weather has warmed up! I think I may just buy half a pint of cream to throw down tomorrow, just to get the third disaster over with!  ;) I am NOT loading the dishwasher tonight!  Someone Else can do that! — Kate  XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!

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I am not afraid of very many things, grew up on a farm part time, and all that goes with that, but snakes are not a thing I cope with rationally, the bird presents bunny legs and the like don’t bother me but the snake combined with that horrid child was enough to convince me they need to be inside.  If I lived near my mother we might let them go out again, Lee

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – mine are all indoors and get all shots but this was something that the vet said was just going around, no clue how they got it but it was awful. That hunter stuff went on until the spawn of Jeffery dommer moved in and they brought me a snake for a present in the same week, now we are all indoors, all the time, Lee No snakes here, but they do bring in birds , dead and alive, rabbits, ditto: mice, voles, even the occasional rat (NOT in the house!  They don’t attempt to eat them, and just drop them on the grass!).  We usually find the remains of a post midnight take-away bunny the morning after! — Kate  XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!

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mine are all indoors and get all shots but this was something that the vet said was just going around, no clue how they got it but it was awful.  That hunter stuff went on until the spawn of Jeffery dommer moved in and they brought me a snake for a present in the same week, now we are all indoors, all the time, Lee

No snakes here, but they do bring in birds , dead and alive, rabbits, ditto: mice, voles, even the occasional rat (NOT in the house!  They don’t attempt to eat them, and just drop them on the grass!).  We usually find the remains of a post midnight take-away bunny the morning after! — Kate  XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!

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non carpet is on my wish list, Lee

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We replaced all carpet with tile a few years ago, and do I ever love it. Carpet scrubbing burns lotsa points. Had a couple of disasters today… My son decided to decorate the house with soup at lunch time! Splattered the sofa, both the quilts on it and both throws, the floor (majorly!), and himself!  Luckily the soup wasn’t hot enough to scald, but after DH cleared the lumps and we shoved the quilts in the washer, I then spent 2 hours I SHOULD have spent in the sewing room scrubbing soup out of the carpet!  I count myself lucky that it didn’t hit the ceiling… Why do boys do this on days you have guests coming for supper?  AKK! Some days one boy is more bother than both cats! Trouble was that just as we were finishing the evening off nicely, Cornflake (the big stupid cat) threw up his dinner all over an as yet unscrubbed bit of carpet!  So there I was, on my knees again, scrubbing another square yard… I KNOW my living room carpet is in dire need of a good scrub all over (we live in a mid terrace house, and the lawn mower and everything have to come through the living room to get to the front garden.  It gets mucky.  Life is like that.), but I did NOT want to have to do it today! I was thinking some time in May would be good, when the weather has warmed up! I think I may just buy half a pint of cream to throw down tomorrow, just to get the third disaster over with!  ;) I am NOT loading the dishwasher tonight!  Someone Else can do that! — Kate  XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!

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mine are all indoors and get all shots but this was something that the vet said was just going around, no clue how they got it but it was awful.  That hunter stuff went on until the spawn of Jeffery dommer moved in and they brought me a snake for a present in the same week, now we are all indoors, all the time, Lee

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I so relate, I have five cats and no children but they all five got cat-flu at the same time this year, it was positively gruesome, five cats is five mouths and five "other ends" we spent three days cleaning carpet about about ever ten minutes Ours are ‘in and out’ cats, and get anual shots against flue, enteritus and leukemia, so we never worry about those.  They are more likely to grue&poo due to eating something they shouldn’t, as they are both mighty hunters, and have been known to eat bunnies! I suspect furr balls on this occasion! — Kate  XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!

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Maybe you could do an exquisite dress for free for the daughter of someone who could do the floor for you :-) . I looked at your website, your projects are quite good! Julie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – oh yuck!  I’m sorry you had to deal with that today. Can you replace your carpet with a laminate floor? It would be easier to clean. Julie I’d love to, but the floor is uneven and needs flattening first, so this would be an ouch expensive project!  I need to do quite a few more wedding dresses first! — Kate  XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!

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oh yuck!  I’m sorry you had to deal with that today. Can you replace your carpet with a laminate floor? It would be easier to clean. Julie

I’d love to, but the floor is uneven and needs flattening first, so this would be an ouch expensive project!  I need to do quite a few more wedding dresses first! — Kate  XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!

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We replaced all carpet with tile a few years ago, and do I ever love it. Carpet scrubbing burns lotsa points.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Had a couple of disasters today… My son decided to decorate the house with soup at lunch time! Splattered the sofa, both the quilts on it and both throws, the floor (majorly!), and himself!  Luckily the soup wasn’t hot enough to scald, but after DH cleared the lumps and we shoved the quilts in the washer, I then spent 2 hours I SHOULD have spent in the sewing room scrubbing soup out of the carpet!  I count myself lucky that it didn’t hit the ceiling… Why do boys do this on days you have guests coming for supper?  AKK! Some days one boy is more bother than both cats! Trouble was that just as we were finishing the evening off nicely, Cornflake (the big stupid cat) threw up his dinner all over an as yet unscrubbed bit of carpet!  So there I was, on my knees again, scrubbing another square yard… I KNOW my living room carpet is in dire need of a good scrub all over (we live in a mid terrace house, and the lawn mower and everything have to come through the living room to get to the front garden.  It gets mucky.  Life is like that.), but I did NOT want to have to do it today! I was thinking some time in May would be good, when the weather has warmed up! I think I may just buy half a pint of cream to throw down tomorrow, just to get the third disaster over with!  ;) I am NOT loading the dishwasher tonight!  Someone Else can do that! — Kate  XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!

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I so relate, I have five cats and no children but they all five got cat-flu at the same time this year, it was positively gruesome, five cats is five mouths and five "other ends" we spent three days cleaning carpet about about ever ten minutes

Ours are ‘in and out’ cats, and get anual shots against flue, enteritus and leukemia, so we never worry about those.  They are more likely to grue&poo due to eating something they shouldn’t, as they are both mighty hunters, and have been known to eat bunnies! I suspect furr balls on this occasion! — Kate  XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!

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oh yuck!  I’m sorry you had to deal with that today. Can you replace your carpet with a laminate floor? It would be easier to clean. Julie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Had a couple of disasters today… My son decided to decorate the house with soup at lunch time! Splattered the sofa, both the quilts on it and both throws, the floor (majorly!), and himself!  Luckily the soup wasn’t hot enough to scald, but after DH cleared the lumps and we shoved the quilts in the washer, I then spent 2 hours I SHOULD have spent in the sewing room scrubbing soup out of the carpet!  I count myself lucky that it didn’t hit the ceiling… Why do boys do this on days you have guests coming for supper?  AKK! Some days one boy is more bother than both cats! Trouble was that just as we were finishing the evening off nicely, Cornflake (the big stupid cat) threw up his dinner all over an as yet unscrubbed bit of carpet!  So there I was, on my knees again, scrubbing another square yard… I KNOW my living room carpet is in dire need of a good scrub all over (we live in a mid terrace house, and the lawn mower and everything have to come through the living room to get to the front garden.  It gets mucky.  Life is like that.), but I did NOT want to have to do it today! I was thinking some time in May would be good, when the weather has warmed up! I think I may just buy half a pint of cream to throw down tomorrow, just to get the third disaster over with!  ;) I am NOT loading the dishwasher tonight!  Someone Else can do that! — Kate  XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!

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I so relate, I have five cats and no children but they all five got cat-flu at the same time this year, it was positively gruesome, five cats is five mouths and five "other ends" we spent three days cleaning carpet about about ever ten minutes

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Had a couple of disasters today… My son decided to decorate the house with soup at lunch time! Splattered the sofa, both the quilts on it and both throws, the floor (majorly!), and himself!  Luckily the soup wasn’t hot enough to scald, but after DH cleared the lumps and we shoved the quilts in the washer, I then spent 2 hours I SHOULD have spent in the sewing room scrubbing soup out of the carpet!  I count myself lucky that it didn’t hit the ceiling… Why do boys do this on days you have guests coming for supper?  AKK! Some days one boy is more bother than both cats! Trouble was that just as we were finishing the evening off nicely, Cornflake (the big stupid cat) threw up his dinner all over an as yet unscrubbed bit of carpet!  So there I was, on my knees again, scrubbing another square yard… I KNOW my living room carpet is in dire need of a good scrub all over (we live in a mid terrace house, and the lawn mower and everything have to come through the living room to get to the front garden.  It gets mucky.  Life is like that.), but I did NOT want to have to do it today! I was thinking some time in May would be good, when the weather has warmed up! I think I may just buy half a pint of cream to throw down tomorrow, just to get the third disaster over with!  ;) I am NOT loading the dishwasher tonight!  Someone Else can do that! — Kate  XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!

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Had a couple of disasters today… My son decided to decorate the house with soup at lunch time! Splattered the sofa, both the quilts on it and both throws, the floor (majorly!), and himself!  Luckily the soup wasn’t hot enough to scald, but after DH cleared the lumps and we shoved the quilts in the washer, I then spent 2 hours I SHOULD have spent in the sewing room scrubbing soup out of the carpet!  I count myself lucky that it didn’t hit the ceiling… Why do boys do this on days you have guests coming for supper?  AKK! Some days one boy is more bother than both cats! Trouble was that just as we were finishing the evening off nicely, Cornflake (the big stupid cat) threw up his dinner all over an as yet unscrubbed bit of carpet!  So there I was, on my knees again, scrubbing another square yard… I KNOW my living room carpet is in dire need of a good scrub all over (we live in a mid terrace house, and the lawn mower and everything have to come through the living room to get to the front garden.  It gets mucky.  Life is like that.), but I did NOT want to have to do it today! I was thinking some time in May would be good, when the weather has warmed up! I think I may just buy half a pint of cream to throw down tomorrow, just to get the third disaster over with!  ;) I am NOT loading the dishwasher tonight!  Someone Else can do that! — Kate  XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!

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It's snowing like a cunt here

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Because I suck. And probably blow goats. OTS "Michaela" <michaelamackenzie05072…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:402713ae.0@news1.mweb.co.za… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Why? What makes you think we don’t want to be grabbed from behind? > – Michaela > HumungousFungusAmongUs wrote: > > I’m sorry. > > OTS > > "Eleonore Beaudoin" wrote > >> "Michaela" writes: > >>> I’m going to take some of the letters off of yer keyboard > >>> or something. > >>> Not that I didn’t enjoy the post or anything understand. > >>> Wassa "Snow Rotrasper"? I have an idea, but I’d like to > >>> hear it in vivid detail from your lipz. > >>> – Michaela > >> It’s a gadget to grab women from behind when they are stuck in the > >> snow… or something. Be careful!!:)

— Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.580 / Virus Database: 367 – Release Date: 06/02/2004

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Is that an instruction or simply an observation? – Michaela "Dr. Carlo Lombardi" wrote – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Perv. > "Michaela" wrote > > I’d like to slap you with a restraining order. > > – Michaela > > Dr. Carlo Lombardi wrote: > >> bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote in > >> news:c07sgo$830$1@freenet9.carleton.ca: > >>> Ghost (black-…@Cookieshaw.ca) writes: > >>>> Michaela wrote: > >>>>> Why? What makes you think we don’t want to be grabbed from behind? > >>>> chloe was talking about something thats attached to a woman rather > >>>> than grabbing a woman’s butt ;) > >> That’s how I got slapped with that restraining order…even though > >> i’m DOCTOR CARLO LOMBARDI.

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You, the viewer, must decide. michaelamackenzie05072…@yahoo.com (Michaela) wrote in news:3271bf15.0402100209.5ac024f5@posting.google.com: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Is that an instruction or simply an observation? > – Michaela > "Dr. Carlo Lombardi" wrote >> Perv. >> "Michaela" wrote >> > I’d like to slap you with a restraining order. >> > – Michaela >> > Dr. Carlo Lombardi wrote: >> >> bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote in >> >> news:c07sgo$830$1@freenet9.carleton.ca: >> >>> Ghost (black-…@Cookieshaw.ca) writes: >> >>>> Michaela wrote: >> >>>>> Why? What makes you think we don’t want to be grabbed from behind? >> >>>> chloe was talking about something thats attached to a woman rather >> >>>> than grabbing a woman’s butt ;) >> >> That’s how I got slapped with that restraining order…even though >> >> i’m DOCTOR CARLO LOMBARDI.

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Ghost (black-…@Cookieshaw.ca) writes: > Michaela wrote: >> Why? What makes you think we don’t want to be grabbed from behind? > chloe was talking about something thats attached to a woman rather than > grabbing a woman’s butt ;) > just for the record, some guys likes their butts pinched to ya know :p > ghost

Actually, I meant an invention to *grab women from behind*, and its use would be to grab women from behind when stuck in snow;-). I was making humour, but meant as Michaela meant:). Was also humour, cause I know of the Rotrasper:), nah ner:) And not, it is not somethign to grab women from behind. Perhaps in a spoon position, though;-):) Yums, Ghost!:) C  > – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> – Michaela >> HumungousFungusAmongUs wrote: >>>I’m sorry. >>>OTS >>>"Eleonore Beaudoin" wrote >>>>"Michaela" writes: >>>>>I’m going to take some of the letters off of yer keyboard >>>>>or something. >>>>>Not that I didn’t enjoy the post or anything understand. >>>>>Wassa "Snow Rotrasper"? I have an idea, but I’d like to >>>>>hear it in vivid detail from your lipz. >>>>>- Michaela >>>>It’s a gadget to grab women from behind when they are stuck in the >>>>snow… or something. Be careful!!:)

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Re: title of thread. Does anyone know if pubic dandruff is, in fact, a known phenomenon? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"HumungousFungusAmongUs" <omega.po…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message <news:c0bec0$145sn2$1@ID-73971.news.uni-berlin.de>… > Because I suck. And probably blow goats. > OTS > "Michaela" <michaelamackenzie05072…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:402713ae.0@news1.mweb.co.za… > > Why? What makes you think we don’t want to be grabbed from behind? > > – Michaela > > HumungousFungusAmongUs wrote: > > > I’m sorry. > > > OTS > > > "Eleonore Beaudoin" wrote > > >> "Michaela" writes: > > >>> I’m going to take some of the letters off of yer keyboard > > >>> or something. > > >>> Not that I didn’t enjoy the post or anything understand. > > >>> Wassa "Snow Rotrasper"? I have an idea, but I’d like to > > >>> hear it in vivid detail from your lipz. > > >>> – Michaela > > >> It’s a gadget to grab women from behind when they are stuck in the > > >> snow… or something. Be careful!!:) > — > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.580 / Virus Database: 367 – Release Date: 06/02/2004

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New Age freak. – Michaela – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dr. Carlo Lombardi wrote: > You, the viewer, must decide. > (Michaela) wrote >> Is that an instruction or simply an observation? >> – Michaela >> "Dr. Carlo Lombardi" wrote >>> Perv. >>> "Michaela" wrote >>>> I’d like to slap you with a restraining order. >>>> – Michaela >>>> Dr. Carlo Lombardi wrote: >>>>> (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote >>>>>> Ghost writes: >>>>>>> Michaela wrote: >>>>>>>> Why? What makes you think we don’t want to be grabbed from >>>>>>>> behind? >>>>>>> chloe was talking about something thats attached to a woman >>>>>>> rather than grabbing a woman’s butt ;) >>>>> That’s how I got slapped with that restraining order…even though >>>>> i’m DOCTOR CARLO LOMBARDI.

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bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote in news:c07sgo$830$1@freenet9.carleton.ca: > Ghost (black-…@Cookieshaw.ca) writes: >> Michaela wrote: >>> Why? What makes you think we don’t want to be grabbed from behind? >> chloe was talking about something thats attached to a woman rather than >> grabbing a woman’s butt ;)

That’s how I got slapped with that restraining order…even though i’m DOCTOR CARLO LOMBARDI.

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I’d like to slap you with a restraining order. – Michaela – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dr. Carlo Lombardi wrote: > bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote in > news:c07sgo$830$1@freenet9.carleton.ca: >> Ghost (black-…@Cookieshaw.ca) writes: >>> Michaela wrote: >>>> Why? What makes you think we don’t want to be grabbed from behind? >>> chloe was talking about something thats attached to a woman rather >>> than grabbing a woman’s butt ;) > That’s how I got slapped with that restraining order…even though > i’m DOCTOR CARLO LOMBARDI.

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Ghost wrote: > Michaela wrote: >> Why? What makes you think we don’t want to be grabbed from behind? > just for the record, some guys likes their butts pinched to ya know :p

To ya know where?  : ) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ghost – Michaela >> HumungousFungusAmongUs wrote: >>> I’m sorry. >>> OTS >>> "Eleonore Beaudoin" wrote >>>> "Michaela" writes: >>>>> I’m going to take some of the letters off of yer keyboard >>>>> or something. >>>>> Not that I didn’t enjoy the post or anything understand. >>>>> Wassa "Snow Rotrasper"? I have an idea, but I’d like to >>>>> hear it in vivid detail from your lipz. >>>>> – Michaela >>>> It’s a gadget to grab women from behind when they are stuck in the >>>> snow… or something. Be careful!!:)

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Perv. "Michaela" <michaelamackenzie05072…@yahoo.com> wrote in news:4027db8d.0@news1.mweb.co.za: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’d like to slap you with a restraining order. > – Michaela > Dr. Carlo Lombardi wrote: >> bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote in >> news:c07sgo$830$1@freenet9.carleton.ca: >>> Ghost (black-…@Cookieshaw.ca) writes: >>>> Michaela wrote: >>>>> Why? What makes you think we don’t want to be grabbed from behind? >>>> chloe was talking about something thats attached to a woman rather >>>> than grabbing a woman’s butt ;) >> That’s how I got slapped with that restraining order…even though >> i’m DOCTOR CARLO LOMBARDI.

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I was on me way home from me mam’s house, we did a lot of cool modelling on t’model railway this day, anyway, as I was on me way yam, it fucking thundered and lightened, and it fucking started to snow like a bastard, maybe on the morrow I will be able to build a Snow Rotrasper? Fuck me rigid, etc. OTS — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 – Release Date: 03/02/2004

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On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 23:04:24 +0000, HumungousFungusAmongUs wrote: > I was on me way home from me mam’s house, we did a lot of cool modelling on > t’model railway this day, anyway, as I was on me way yam, it fucking > thundered and lightened, and it fucking started to snow like a bastard, > maybe on the morrow I will be able to build a Snow Rotrasper? Fuck me rigid, > etc.

Ain’t snowing here.  But I did say February was going to freeze (if anyone bothered to read my weather prediction for the year) – so, looks like I might be right again. Looking forward to *next* winter, oh boy, are we gonna have some storms or what! Monster — Of course I can!  I’m British. www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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Today I sunbathed on the terrace and watched the parrots. HAR! HAR! HAR! And I had some cheese. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"HumungousFungusAmongUs" <omega.po…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message <news:c03qqd$1309oj$1@ID-73971.news.uni-berlin.de>… > I was on me way home from me mam’s house, we did a lot of cool modelling on > t’model railway this day, anyway, as I was on me way yam, it fucking > thundered and lightened, and it fucking started to snow like a bastard, > maybe on the morrow I will be able to build a Snow Rotrasper? Fuck me rigid, > etc. > OTS > — > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 – Release Date: 03/02/2004

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You won’t be laughing when that mole on your neck grows enormously, swallows your eyeballs and severs your head from your body, then leaves a bloody rampage in it’s wake across Spain. nevilemo…@yahoo.com (OB) wrote in news:6ebc501c.0402080854.22a09192@posting.google.com: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Today I sunbathed on the terrace and watched the parrots. HAR! HAR! > HAR! > And I had some cheese. > "HumungousFungusAmongUs" <omega.po…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > <news:c03qqd$1309oj$1@ID-73971.news.uni-berlin.de>… >> I was on me way home from me mam’s house, we did a lot of cool >> modelling on t’model railway this day, anyway, as I was on me way >> yam, it fucking thundered and lightened, and it fucking started to >> snow like a bastard, maybe on the morrow I will be able to build a >> Snow Rotrasper? Fuck me rigid, etc. >> OTS >> — >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 – Release Date: 03/02/2004

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OB (nevilemo…@yahoo.com) writes: > Today I sunbathed on the terrace and watched the parrots. HAR! HAR! HAR! > And I had some cheese.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm….cheese……….! > "HumungousFungusAmongUs" <omega.po…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message <news:c03qqd$1309oj$1@ID-73971.news.uni-berlin.de>… >> I was on me way home from me mam’s house, we did a lot of cool modelling on >> t’model railway this day, anyway, as I was on me way yam, it fucking >> thundered and lightened, and it fucking started to snow like a bastard, >> maybe on the morrow I will be able to build a Snow Rotrasper? Fuck me rigid, >> etc. >> OTS >> — >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 – Release Date: 03/02/2004

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Dah. Before it can do that, it’ll have to beat the Evil Bunion of Doom, the Massed Intestinal Worm Armies and the Mysterious Wriggling Denizen of the Gaping Hole In Gum. There’s a whole queue of parasites and sinister supernumerary body parts with dibs on my eyeballs, and they won’t take kindly to some upstart mole trying to steal a march on them. Dr. Carlo Lombardi <@@@.com> escribi

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