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I don’t usually pay much attention to the various eBay / Paypal scams that hit my mailbox, but the following did somehow catch my attention: "After responding to the message, we ask that you allow at least 72 hours for the case to be investigated. Emailing us before that time will result in delays."
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Please don’t talk about Lumpy’s auctions like this.
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Please don’t talk about Lumpy’s auctions like this.
Look Steve. The wedding dress fit me just fine. It’s not my fault if it made your butt look big. Lumpy — In Your Ears for 40 Years http://www.lumpymusic.com
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Two questions for ya lumpy. How many college professors assign usenet posts? And do you realize what a buffoon you are? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A bunch of stuff. Top posted, middle posted and misattributed. And you want to sell yourself as a writing tutor? Lumpy –
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So have you started calling universities yet, Don, or are you still wasting your time sniping on usenet about things you know nothing about? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Actually, that is exactly what most of his customers will want.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A front page ad on eBay probably works best for high-ticket items, high-volume items, and for vendors who have eBay stores. I can’t imagine such an ad would be worthwhile for personal services, other than as a publicity stunt. I don’t even know anyone who actually visits the eBay front page. I’d guess that most folks log in and go directly to a favorite page they’ve bookmarked. The grilled cheese sandwich lady, the guy who sold his kids’ Christmas presents, the ghost in a jar seller, the kid who had the Microsoft-like domain name all made the national news. I don’t think any of them did it on purpose. I was a PR flack for 22 years, and recognize the role dumb luck can play in getting national publicity. When I wanted to get my own eBay message out, I had a New York PR agency arrange for telephone interviews on 30-some radio stations around the country. Your unusual service could be approached from the same angle, even though you’d probably have to do the legwork yourself. A good letter and news release and some phone calls could get you booked on some of those Morning Zoo, etc. shows and, with a little dumb luck, attract the attention of the national media. I managed to get on the ABC News *radio* network, but you’ll notice there wasn’t a peep about me on CNN or any of the other biggies. I had the dumb part down pat, but fell short on the luck portion of the equation. It may be my background speaking, but I wouldn’t bother with an ad on the eBay main page. I’d look for alternate ways of getting the word out, including Web search engines.
On the other hand, one never knows until they try. There are a lot of maybes involved and the odds are long, but if one has enough money to pay eBay and the right person comes along … it could become another of those "wedding dress" auctions/listings. It may turn into nothing at all, but it may turn into something far bigger than anyone could ever imagine. Putting the word "pule" in the title will get a lot of people to see it … as will "porn" (perhaps someone wants a story written or needs help writing one).
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I think to get CNN to pick it up I’d have to get it rolling already. Do you think an investment of what it would take to get a front-page ad on ebay would be worth it? If you were me, would you go for it?
If I wanted to burn $100 bills, I’d hope somebody would try to talk me out of it. It’s my opinion that, for you, buying a front page ad on eBay would be like burning a $100 bill. Spend some time boiling it down until you can present your vision of the service you’d like to provide clearly on one side of an 8 1/2 x 11 piece of paper. Then spend your $100 Xeroxing up 1000 of them, and driving to every high school and college campus within 100 miles and plastering them up in common areas. If this doesn’t work out for you, well, think again.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The service I would sell would ask that the writers (high school age and up preferably) provide me some feedback about the kind of writing project I’d be assisting with, whether it be a homework assignment, a college paper, etc. If they have an outline or a draft, they could send those via email. I can make edit marks and suggestions on said draft and send it back. There are all kinds of toys on MS Word that enable this. Or I could even talk them through the writing process via a chat program like AIM or IRC. There’d be a lot of ways this service could unfold according to each client’s needs. If this service is marketed correctly, I think it could get me a TON of clients. I’d have to lay my credentials out of course. I’ve been an English teacher on the college level for 9 years. In May I’ll be getting my Ph.D. in English. Unfortunately there’s no category in ebay for Services or for Tutoring. I notice that on ebay, there’s a way of getting your auction put on the home page. Since it doesn’t seem likely my customers would think to LOOK for an online writing tutor, buying one of those (I’m sure expensive) ads is probably the only way ebay could be a sucessful way to market this. Any advice would be appreciated.
I think this sort of service would be better marketed through a service that is specifically focused on matching writers with projects, such as www.freelancewriting.com/elance or www.writesight.com. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The service I would sell would ask that the writers (high school age and up preferably) provide me some feedback about the kind of writing project I’d be assisting with, whether it be a homework assignment, a college paper, etc. If they have an outline or a draft, they could send those via email. I can make edit marks and suggestions on said draft and send it back. There are all kinds of toys on MS Word that enable this. Or I could even talk them through the writing process via a chat program like AIM or IRC. There’d be a lot of ways this service could unfold according to each client’s needs. If this service is marketed correctly, I think it could get me a TON of clients. I’d have to lay my credentials out of course. I’ve been an English teacher on the college level for 9 years. In May I’ll be getting my Ph.D. in English. Unfortunately there’s no category in ebay for Services or for Tutoring. I notice that on ebay, there’s a way of getting your auction put on the home page. Since it doesn’t seem likely my customers would think to LOOK for an online writing tutor, buying one of those (I’m sure expensive) ads is probably the only way ebay could be a sucessful way to market this. Any advice would be appreciated. I think this sort of service would be better marketed through a service that is specifically focused on matching writers with projects, such as www.freelancewriting.com/elance or www.writesight.com.
I’d have to agree. I think its a great idea and if you really want to use Ebay then I think that you should use it as a part instead of just relying on Ebay itself. Since your objective is to generate income from offering your writing services then you should show some examples of your work, offer an introductory kind of thing where you could show your expertise. You have to draw people to your website, get them interested and show them why they need your services. A lot of that is going to depend on your reputation and building it up. On a side note I can understand your enthusiasm for Microsoft Word! I was playing around with it the other day mostly having fun with the graphics part of it and the 3D options. But getting back to your post there are people that do already offer their writing services via the web so you know that this is not an impossible thing to do. But you should treat it seriously and realize that you will have to do more than just use Ebay. I agree that Ebay is a very popular site and it definitely draws a lot of traffic but when you want to use it in relation to your business you have to use it in the best way that will benefit your business the most. Rose http://members.aol.com/Roseb441702/consult.htm "Can you make money on the Internet?-YES!"
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The service I would sell would ask that the writers (high school age and up preferably) provide me some feedback about the kind of writing project I’d be assisting with, whether it be a homework assignment, a college paper, etc. If they have an outline or a draft, they could send those via email. I can make edit marks and suggestions on said draft and send it back. There are all kinds of toys on MS Word that enable this. Or I could even talk them through the writing process via a chat program like AIM or IRC. There’d be a lot of ways this service could unfold according to each client’s needs. If this service is marketed correctly, I think it could get me a TON of clients. I’d have to lay my credentials out of course. I’ve been an English teacher on the college level for 9 years. In May I’ll be getting my Ph.D. in English. Unfortunately there’s no category in ebay for Services or for Tutoring. I notice that on ebay, there’s a way of getting your auction put on the home page. Since it doesn’t seem likely my customers would think to LOOK for an online writing tutor, buying one of those (I’m sure expensive) ads is probably the only way ebay could be a sucessful way to market this. Any advice would be appreciated.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The service I would sell would ask that the writers (high school age and up preferably) provide me some feedback about the kind of writing project I’d be assisting with, whether it be a homework assignment, a college paper, etc. If they have an outline or a draft, they could send those via email. I can make edit marks and suggestions on said draft and send it back. There are all kinds of toys on MS Word that enable this. Or I could even talk them through the writing process via a chat program like AIM or IRC. There’d be a lot of ways this service could unfold according to each client’s needs. If this service is marketed correctly, I think it could get me a TON of clients. I’d have to lay my credentials out of course. I’ve been an English teacher on the college level for 9 years. In May I’ll be getting my Ph.D. in English. Unfortunately there’s no category in ebay for Services or for Tutoring. I notice that on ebay, there’s a way of getting your auction put on the home page. Since it doesn’t seem likely my customers would think to LOOK for an online writing tutor, buying one of those (I’m sure expensive) ads is probably the only way ebay could be a sucessful way to market this. Any advice would be appreciated.
Hey, pretty good idea. Anyone who can come up with a non-academic application for a Ph.D. in English deserves to clean up. Or are most of them doing that already? Seriously, you need to get your unique idea picked up and reported by CNN. PR is the best free advertising. Everything I know, and then some: http://www.auctionmyths.com
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I think to get CNN to pick it up I’d have to get it rolling already. Do you think an investment of what it would take to get a front-page ad on ebay would be worth it? If you were me, would you go for it? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The service I would sell would ask that the writers (high school age and up preferably) provide me some feedback about the kind of writing project I’d be assisting with, whether it be a homework assignment, a college paper, etc. If they have an outline or a draft, they could send those via email. I can make edit marks and suggestions on said draft and send it back. There are all kinds of toys on MS Word that enable this. Or I could even talk them through the writing process via a chat program like AIM or IRC. There’d be a lot of ways this service could unfold according to each client’s needs. If this service is marketed correctly, I think it could get me a TON of clients. I’d have to lay my credentials out of course. I’ve been an English teacher on the college level for 9 years. In May I’ll be getting my Ph.D. in English. Unfortunately there’s no category in ebay for Services or for Tutoring. I notice that on ebay, there’s a way of getting your auction put on the home page. Since it doesn’t seem likely my customers would think to LOOK for an online writing tutor, buying one of those (I’m sure expensive) ads is probably the only way ebay could be a sucessful way to market this. Any advice would be appreciated. Hey, pretty good idea. Anyone who can come up with a non-academic application for a Ph.D. in English deserves to clean up. Or are most of them doing that already? Seriously, you need to get your unique idea picked up and reported by CNN. PR is the best free advertising. Everything I know, and then some: http://www.auctionmyths.com
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A bunch of stuff. Top posted, middle posted and misattributed. And you want to sell yourself as a writing tutor? Lumpy — In Your Ears for 40 Years http://www.lumpymusic.com
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A bunch of stuff. Top posted, middle posted and misattributed. And you want to sell yourself as a writing tutor? Lumpy — In Your Ears for 40 Years http://www.lumpymusic.com
Actually, that is exactly what most of his customers will want. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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Then I guess colleges need to do away with all their writing centers and all their tutoring services. You’ve got a lot of phone calls to make Don. Better get on it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any student is free to employ any tutor they like. In my ten years as a college instructor I never tolerated the turning in of work that was not the student’s own, and my assistance would in no way do the work the student should be doing. The service I would sell would ask that the writers (high school age and up preferably) provide me some feedback about the kind of writing project I’d be assisting with, whether it be a homework assignment, a college paper, etc. If they have an outline or a draft, they could send those via email. I can make edit marks and suggestions on said draft and send it back. There are all kinds of toys on MS Word that enable this. Or I could even talk them through the writing process via a chat program like AIM or IRC. There’d be a lot of ways this service could unfold according to each client’s needs. If this service is marketed correctly, I think it could get me a TON of clients. I’d have to lay my credentials out of course. I’ve been an English teacher on the college level for 9 years. In May I’ll be getting my Ph.D. in English. Unfortunately there’s no category in ebay for Services or for Tutoring. I notice that on ebay, there’s a way of getting your auction put on the home page. Since it doesn’t seem likely my customers would think to LOOK for an online writing tutor, buying one of those (I’m sure expensive) ads is probably the only way ebay could be a sucessful way to market this. Any advice would be appreciated. Can you spell CHEAT? The reality of what you propose is that 99+ percent of your customers will be lazy students buying into a grade. There are already enough of these "services" thoroughly pissing off academia. No more are needed.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any student is free to employ any tutor they like. In my ten years as a college instructor I never tolerated the turning in of work that was not the student’s own, and my assistance would in no way do the work the student should be doing. The service I would sell would ask that the writers (high school age and up preferably) provide me some feedback about the kind of writing project I’d be assisting with, whether it be a homework assignment, a college paper, etc. If they have an outline or a draft, they could send those via email. I can make edit marks and suggestions on said draft and send it back. There are all kinds of toys on MS Word that enable this. Or I could even talk them through the writing process via a chat program like AIM or IRC. There’d be a lot of ways this service could unfold according to each client’s needs. If this service is marketed correctly, I think it could get me a TON of clients. I’d have to lay my credentials out of course. I’ve been an English teacher on the college level for 9 years. In May I’ll be getting my Ph.D. in English. Unfortunately there’s no category in ebay for Services or for Tutoring. I notice that on ebay, there’s a way of getting your auction put on the home page. Since it doesn’t seem likely my customers would think to LOOK for an online writing tutor, buying one of those (I’m sure expensive) ads is probably the only way ebay could be a sucessful way to market this. Any advice would be appreciated. Can you spell CHEAT?
The reality of what you propose is that 99+ percent of your customers will be lazy students buying into a grade. There are already enough of these "services" thoroughly pissing off academia. No more are needed. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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Any student is free to employ any tutor they like. In my ten years as a college instructor I never tolerated the turning in of work that was not the student’s own, and my assistance would in no way do the work the student should be doing. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The service I would sell would ask that the writers (high school age and up preferably) provide me some feedback about the kind of writing project I’d be assisting with, whether it be a homework assignment, a college paper, etc. If they have an outline or a draft, they could send those via email. I can make edit marks and suggestions on said draft and send it back. There are all kinds of toys on MS Word that enable this. Or I could even talk them through the writing process via a chat program like AIM or IRC. There’d be a lot of ways this service could unfold according to each client’s needs. If this service is marketed correctly, I think it could get me a TON of clients. I’d have to lay my credentials out of course. I’ve been an English teacher on the college level for 9 years. In May I’ll be getting my Ph.D. in English. Unfortunately there’s no category in ebay for Services or for Tutoring. I notice that on ebay, there’s a way of getting your auction put on the home page. Since it doesn’t seem likely my customers would think to LOOK for an online writing tutor, buying one of those (I’m sure expensive) ads is probably the only way ebay could be a sucessful way to market this. Any advice would be appreciated. Can you spell CHEAT?
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The service I would sell would ask that the writers (high school age and up preferably) provide me some feedback about the kind of writing project I’d be assisting with, whether it be a homework assignment, a college paper, etc. If they have an outline or a draft, they could send those via email. I can make edit marks and suggestions on said draft and send it back. There are all kinds of toys on MS Word that enable this. Or I could even talk them through the writing process via a chat program like AIM or IRC. There’d be a lot of ways this service could unfold according to each client’s needs. If this service is marketed correctly, I think it could get me a TON of clients. I’d have to lay my credentials out of course. I’ve been an English teacher on the college level for 9 years. In May I’ll be getting my Ph.D. in English. Unfortunately there’s no category in ebay for Services or for Tutoring. I notice that on ebay, there’s a way of getting your auction put on the home page. Since it doesn’t seem likely my customers would think to LOOK for an online writing tutor, buying one of those (I’m sure expensive) ads is probably the only way ebay could be a sucessful way to market this. Any advice would be appreciated.
Can you spell CHEAT? — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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I think to get CNN to pick it up I’d have to get it rolling already. Do you think an investment of what it would take to get a front-page ad on ebay would be worth it? If you were me, would you go for it?
A front page ad on eBay probably works best for high-ticket items, high-volume items, and for vendors who have eBay stores. I can’t imagine such an ad would be worthwhile for personal services, other than as a publicity stunt. I don’t even know anyone who actually visits the eBay front page. I’d guess that most folks log in and go directly to a favorite page they’ve bookmarked. The grilled cheese sandwich lady, the guy who sold his kids’ Christmas presents, the ghost in a jar seller, the kid who had the Microsoft-like domain name all made the national news. I don’t think any of them did it on purpose. I was a PR flack for 22 years, and recognize the role dumb luck can play in getting national publicity. When I wanted to get my own eBay message out, I had a New York PR agency arrange for telephone interviews on 30-some radio stations around the country. Your unusual service could be approached from the same angle, even though you’d probably have to do the legwork yourself. A good letter and news release and some phone calls could get you booked on some of those Morning Zoo, etc. shows and, with a little dumb luck, attract the attention of the national media. I managed to get on the ABC News *radio* network, but you’ll notice there wasn’t a peep about me on CNN or any of the other biggies. I had the dumb part down pat, but fell short on the luck portion of the equation. It may be my background speaking, but I wouldn’t bother with an ad on the eBay main page. I’d look for alternate ways of getting the word out, including Web search engines. Everything I know, and then some: http://www.auctionmyths.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The actual joke is you sitting there in dfw,texas thinking you are superior to everyone who has ever posted anything in newsgroups. I’ve read your posts, each and every one the same.."me smart you dumb, next question" Even the ones where you talk about wanting to come up with something to get your 15 minutes of fame. I’ve had mine, more than once, ebay has nothing to do with it..comes with the job. But it’s obvious the internet is YOUR only chance. good luck. A pathetic, lonely, little life you live there……congrats. The challenge should be for you to take a good hard look in the mirror. Scary thought isn’t it. Let me guess…. more cussing ?
I’m just *ever* so impressed that you know how to use google! Meanwhile, you’ve demostrated that you’re a poor role model for your kids since you think the terms and conditions of eBay don’t apply to you. Go away, sonny, and take your silly "gotcha" posts with you. You’re cluttering up our newsgroup. — Ty Who is mostly just a slightly skewed Donna Reed …remove my pearls if you wish to write me "To announce there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." — Theodore Roosevelt
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times. This is a humorous ad that generated 20,900 hits,20 something bids in 3 days, we were on tv 3 times and the radio once, and this was nothing but good PR for EBAY. It was done to prove to my kids that you "can sell ANYTHING on EBAY", so why remove it ? <snip The new ad is Item number: 5550728096 <snip Thanks for the number, it’s been reported again.
By more than one of us. — Ty Who is mostly just a slightly skewed Donna Reed …remove my pearls if you wish to write me "To announce there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." — Theodore Roosevelt
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The actual joke is you sitting there in dfw,texas thinking you are superior to everyone who has ever posted anything in newsgroups. I’ve read your posts, each and every one the same.."me smart you dumb, next question" Even the ones where you talk about wanting to come up with something to get your 15 minutes of fame. I’ve had mine, more than once, ebay has nothing to do with it..comes with the job. But it’s obvious the internet is YOUR only chance. good luck. A pathetic, lonely, little life you live there……congrats. The challenge should be for you to take a good hard look in the mirror. Scary thought isn’t it. Let me guess…. more cussing ?
No. Actually more pity. You read every one of my posts and you call MY life lonely! We can banter like this as long as you want or do you need to go abuse your dog some more?
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This is no worse than a lot of auctions I have seen, and better than a few. What’s the big deal? Let the auction finish, and if this kind of thing offends you, ignore it Judith – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times. Bla bla bla. Hey pal. Instead of trying to be a cheap imitation of the wedding dress guy or the Virgin Mary with cheese, how about selling something on eBay besides moronic jokes. It’s pretty obvious eBay has you marked and they aren’t going to allow your nonsense.
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<snip Thanks for the number, it’s been reported again. By more than one of us.
EBay snobs? Judith
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muttered something like: ANY IDEAS ? Yes–ebay is much more likely to read a letter sent to them, or at the very least posted to their own forums. I’ve never seen anything to indicate that anyone from ebay reads usenet. -Bertha
There are those on here that claim anyone who defends eBay or PP are employees. 
Buck — But that’s just my opinion.
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Your comback is about as original as locking your animal in a cage. You’re not going to get your 15 minutes, asshole. Accept it and move on.
I disagree. He got his fame, now he wants to get paid for it and eBay won’t let him do it at their expense. If he hadn’t arranged the items as ‘EBAY SUCKS’ he may have gotten away with it. but then what health situation is there with toys with dog slobber on them? Maybe if he said his dog was trying to chew up the ghosts in the items he could have sold it. Failed exorcisms. Buck — But that’s just my opinion.
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It was done to prove to my kids that you "can sell ANYTHING on EBAY", so why remove it ?
maybe you were wrong! Buck — But that’s just my opinion.
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managed to choke out these words: A pathetic, lonely, little life you live there……congrats.
arguing on usenet is like running in the special olympics. even if you win, you’re still retarded. — http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/derbarbier/ (ebay sales) http://shops.half.com/derbarbier ten tod labolgcbs ta reibrabred
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times. All have "puppy pepper" in the title. All your puppy peppers are belong to us. We don’t need no stinkeeng puppys. eBay Police
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Thanks for the number, it’s been reported again.
lol knock yourself out.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times. This is a humorous ad that generated 20,900 hits,20 something bids in 3 days, we were on tv 3 times and the radio once, and this was nothing but good PR for EBAY. It was done to prove to my kids that you "can sell ANYTHING on EBAY", so why remove it ? <snip The new ad is Item number: 5550728096 <snip Thanks for the number, it’s been reported again.
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Now I have posted this ad AGAIN
Are you intentionally trying to get NARUd? jc
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the only bad thing is, it’s obvious he doesn’t care.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – baked potato. You have about three seconds to live. Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times. <snip The new ad is Item number: 5550728096 <snip Thanks for the number, it’s been reported again. Hopefully this will be the one that gets that idiot NARUed… not only can it be reported for the reasons stated before, it can also be reported for keyword spamming (all of the previous joke auctions). I like the way the idiot admitted in the auction listing that eBay had killed it off before… that way, the eBay employee who looks at it will KNOW to double-check their account instead of just canceling the auction and letting them slide (and hopefully kill the account this time for willful breaking of eBay TOS). Bill — By working faithfully eight hours a day, you may eventually get to be boss and work twelve hours a day. – Robert Frost
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Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times.
For most of us, eBay is more than the backyard sandbox. Take your kids and your idiot attempts at an auction and go somewhere else to amuse yourselves. — Ty Who is mostly just a slightly skewed Donna Reed …remove my pearls if you wish to write me "To announce there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." — Theodore Roosevelt
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Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times. This is a humorous ad that generated 20,900 hits,20 something bids in 3 days, we were on tv 3 times and the radio once, and this was nothing but good PR for EBAY. It was done to prove to my kids that you "can sell ANYTHING on EBAY", so why remove it ? Then on the 4th day we were removed for violation "5.1 Listing Description: "…You must be legally able to sell the item(s) you list for sale on the Site." ( per Janeeva, EBAY Community Watch) Although it couldn’t have been further from the truth. Does anyone actually read the ads or just automatically remove them due to a complaint or what ? Because it was obvious the ad Did Not violate 5.1 Next the second ad…in which I was still selling 18 items in a lot like the first ad was removed for the comment "Puppy need bail" which was a joke but I’ll admit possibly improper, although unintentional. Before I posted it I wrote asking guidance to no avail. The 3rd ad… a 5 day ad, ran for 4 days and 21 hours, then it was pulled for violation of "food and drink restrictions"? What in the world are you talking about ? I’m speechless on that one. 100% DUMBFOUNDED. All of these ads can be found posted under my profile "profireman" All have "puppy pepper" in the title. Now I have posted this ad AGAIN…. I’ve tried contacting you people but no one has offered any help what so ever. The new ad is Item number: 5550728096 Would some one PLEASE look at it and write me if we have ANY doubts about the ad. I would more than be willing to change anything if someone would just work with us here. The last thing I want is to get into trouble but I want to run this ad. It amazes me that I can sell ghosts,spirts,voodoo dolls, penis enlargement pills and contraptions, moldy food, raffles, have tattoos put on any part of the human anatomy, jewelry made of animal feces, (all are on EBAY at this moment, I’ve checked) yet you are giving me and 3 little kids this much grief over this ad. Thanks I told my kids you could sell anything on ebay and made a cute little ad to prove it.. We put our puppy in a kennel and took pics, then took pics of everything she’s ever chewed and the ad said "Puppy Pepper Needs Bail" and the winner was to get everythign she had ever chewed..basically junk. after 20,000 hits and 28 bids in 2 days, ebay killed it for violation of 5.1, and their written excuse was that I wasn’t "actually selling anything." Which couldn’t have been further from the truth. Where they came up with that I’ll NEVER KNOW. So then a new ad… I GUARANTEE everything the dog has chewed is REAL, so they let it run 2 days and after 3000 more hits and 12 more bids they deleted it because I was "holding a dog hostage".. ok..it did imply that..but you could tell if you read the actual ad it wasn’t really true. Ok… so I change the title, replace the pic of the dog with a pic of everything she has ever chewed on the floor arranged so it spells "ebay sux". They let it run 4 days 21 hours,5500 hits, 9 bids, THEN 3 hours before end, then delete it for "auctioning prohibited food and drink" There was absolutely no food and drink… not 1 crummy grilled cheese with the virgin mary, no potions to make your penis bigger, nothing. I wrote to them them at the link for disputing ad removals after each and every one of the auctions and explained thoroughly that it was impossible anyone had actually read the ad before they removed it. (no replies) So I’m on my 4th try….. It AMAZES me that they are on my ass for this ad. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1469&item=5550… take a look..no I’m not wanting hits, bids, nuttin..it’s principal now.. I’ve tried writing them before the last 2 ads to make sure that these ads are OK with them, lord help me if I can’t manage to jump through their maze of hoops. the following is the letter I’ve written to about every email address ebay has…32 hours, no replies…. these people kill me. ANY IDEAS ?
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muttered something like: ANY IDEAS ?
Yes–ebay is much more likely to read a letter sent to them, or at the very least posted to their own forums. I’ve never seen anything to indicate that anyone from ebay reads usenet. -Bertha — Wilner’s Observation: All conversations with a potato should be conducted in private.
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Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times.
Bla bla bla. Hey pal. Instead of trying to be a cheap imitation of the wedding dress guy or the Virgin Mary with cheese, how about selling something on eBay besides moronic jokes. It’s pretty obvious eBay has you marked and they aren’t going to allow your nonsense.
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speaking of moronic jokes, nice name. how old are you ? 12 ? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times. Bla bla bla. Hey pal. Instead of trying to be a cheap imitation of the wedding dress guy or the Virgin Mary with cheese, how about selling something on eBay besides moronic jokes. It’s pretty obvious eBay has you marked and they aren’t going to allow your nonsense.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times. This is a humorous ad that generated 20,900 hits,20 something bids in 3 days, we were on tv 3 times and the radio once, and this was nothing but good PR for EBAY. It was done to prove to my kids that you "can sell ANYTHING on EBAY", so why remove it ? Then on the 4th day we were removed for violation "5.1 Listing Description: "…You must be legally able to sell the item(s) you list for sale on the Site." ( per Janeeva, EBAY Community Watch) Although it couldn’t have been further from the truth. Does anyone actually read the ads or just automatically remove them due to a complaint or what ? Because it was obvious the ad Did Not violate 5.1 Next the second ad…in which I was still selling 18 items in a lot like the first ad was removed for the comment "Puppy need bail" which was a joke but I’ll admit possibly improper, although unintentional. Before I posted it I wrote asking guidance to no avail. The 3rd ad… a 5 day ad, ran for 4 days and 21 hours, then it was pulled for violation of "food and drink restrictions"? What in the world are you talking about ? I’m speechless on that one. 100% DUMBFOUNDED. All of these ads can be found posted under my profile "profireman" All have "puppy pepper" in the title. Now I have posted this ad AGAIN…. I’ve tried contacting you people but no one has offered any help what so ever. The new ad is Item number: 5550728096 Would some one PLEASE look at it and write me if we have ANY doubts about the ad. I would more than be willing to change anything if someone would just work with us here. The last thing I want is to get into trouble but I want to run this ad. It amazes me that I can sell ghosts,spirts,voodoo dolls, penis enlargement pills and contraptions, moldy food, raffles, have tattoos put on any part of the human anatomy, jewelry made of animal feces, (all are on EBAY at this moment, I’ve checked) yet you are giving me and 3 little kids this much grief over this ad. Thanks I told my kids you could sell anything on ebay and made a cute little ad to prove it.. We put our puppy in a kennel and took pics, then took pics of everything she’s ever chewed and the ad said "Puppy Pepper Needs Bail" and the winner was to get everythign she had ever chewed..basically junk. after 20,000 hits and 28 bids in 2 days, ebay killed it for violation of 5.1, and their written excuse was that I wasn’t "actually selling anything." Which couldn’t have been further from the truth. Where they came up with that I’ll NEVER KNOW. So then a new ad… I GUARANTEE everything the dog has chewed is REAL, so they let it run 2 days and after 3000 more hits and 12 more bids they deleted it because I was "holding a dog hostage".. ok..it did imply that..but you could tell if you read the actual ad it wasn’t really true. Ok… so I change the title, replace the pic of the dog with a pic of everything she has ever chewed on the floor arranged so it spells "ebay sux". They let it run 4 days 21 hours,5500 hits, 9 bids, THEN 3 hours before end, then delete it for "auctioning prohibited food and drink" There was absolutely no food and drink… not 1 crummy grilled cheese with the virgin mary, no potions to make your penis bigger, nothing. I wrote to them them at the link for disputing ad removals after each and every one of the auctions and explained thoroughly that it was impossible anyone had actually read the ad before they removed it. (no replies) So I’m on my 4th try….. It AMAZES me that they are on my ass for this ad. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1469&item=5550… take a look..no I’m not wanting hits, bids, nuttin..it’s principal now.. I’ve tried writing them before the last 2 ads to make sure that these ads are OK with them, lord help me if I can’t manage to jump through their maze of hoops. the following is the letter I’ve written to about every email address ebay has…32 hours, no replies…. these people kill me. ANY IDEAS ?
Try hang gliding, decoupage, or blacksmithing. eBay is clearly unsuitable for you. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times. All have "puppy pepper" in the title.
All your puppy peppers are belong to us. We don’t need no stinkeeng puppys. eBay Police
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The actual joke is you sitting there in dfw,texas thinking you are superior to everyone who has ever posted anything in newsgroups. I’ve read your posts, each and every one the same.."me smart you dumb, next question" Even the ones where you talk about wanting to come up with something to get your 15 minutes of fame. I’ve had mine, more than once, ebay has nothing to do with it..comes with the job. But it’s obvious the internet is YOUR only chance. good luck. A pathetic, lonely, little life you live there……congrats. The challenge should be for you to take a good hard look in the mirror. Scary thought isn’t it. Let me guess…. more cussing ? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – well maybe a little older since you’re trolling in alt.politics.homosexuality do ya post there often, flatch ? Yawn. When you can come back with a residue of a challenge, let us know. As it stands, your auctions are a joke, and you’re a joke. speaking of moronic jokes, nice name. how old are you ? 12 ? Your comback is about as original as locking your animal in a cage. You’re not going to get your 15 minutes, asshole. Accept it and move on. Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times. Bla bla bla. Hey pal. Instead of trying to be a cheap imitation of the wedding dress guy or the Virgin Mary with cheese, how about selling something on eBay besides moronic jokes. It’s pretty obvious eBay has you marked and they aren’t going to allow your nonsense.
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well maybe a little older since you’re trolling in alt.politics.homosexuality do ya post there often, flatch ?
Yawn. When you can come back with a residue of a challenge, let us know. As it stands, your auctions are a joke, and you’re a joke. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – speaking of moronic jokes, nice name. how old are you ? 12 ? Your comback is about as original as locking your animal in a cage. You’re not going to get your 15 minutes, asshole. Accept it and move on. Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times. Bla bla bla. Hey pal. Instead of trying to be a cheap imitation of the wedding dress guy or the Virgin Mary with cheese, how about selling something on eBay besides moronic jokes. It’s pretty obvious eBay has you marked and they aren’t going to allow your nonsense.
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well maybe a little older since you’re trolling in alt.politics.homosexuality do ya post there often, flatch ? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – speaking of moronic jokes, nice name. how old are you ? 12 ? Your comback is about as original as locking your animal in a cage. You’re not going to get your 15 minutes, asshole. Accept it and move on. Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times. Bla bla bla. Hey pal. Instead of trying to be a cheap imitation of the wedding dress guy or the Virgin Mary with cheese, how about selling something on eBay besides moronic jokes. It’s pretty obvious eBay has you marked and they aren’t going to allow your nonsense.
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speaking of moronic jokes, nice name. how old are you ? 12 ?
Your comback is about as original as locking your animal in a cage. You’re not going to get your 15 minutes, asshole. Accept it and move on. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times. Bla bla bla. Hey pal. Instead of trying to be a cheap imitation of the wedding dress guy or the Virgin Mary with cheese, how about selling something on eBay besides moronic jokes. It’s pretty obvious eBay has you marked and they aren’t going to allow your nonsense.
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yippee… we got his highness to cuss. so simple you can’t possibly be a day over 12. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – speaking of moronic jokes, nice name. how old are you ? 12 ? Your comback is about as original as locking your animal in a cage. You’re not going to get your 15 minutes, asshole. Accept it and move on. Dear EBAY Police, Myself and my kids have tried 3 times to list an auction and you have removed it 3 times. Bla bla bla. Hey pal. Instead of trying to be a cheap imitation of the wedding dress guy or the Virgin Mary with cheese, how about selling something on eBay besides moronic jokes. It’s pretty obvious eBay has you marked and they aren’t going to allow your nonsense.
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A total an utter horseshit figure. Off by at least two decimal places. Under the ongoing Bush recession, some may actually be trying to live
That would make it off by at least three decimal places then. — Outgoing mail is certified bollocks
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On eBay, new meaning for ’spirited’ bidding Talking teddy bears, a possessed wedding dress. More sellers are hawking the haunted. By Gina Piccalo, Times Staff Writer 1/7/04 There was a time when eBay was just an Internet yard sale frequented by obsessive-compulsives and their enablers, a benign but unstoppable engine of dot-com success. Today, 430,000 Americans earn all or most of their living from eBay sales.
A total an utter horseshit figure. Off by at least two decimal places. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On eBay, new meaning for ’spirited’ bidding Talking teddy bears, a possessed wedding dress. More sellers are hawking the haunted. By Gina Piccalo, Times Staff Writer 1/7/04 There was a time when eBay was just an Internet yard sale frequented by obsessive-compulsives and their enablers, a benign but unstoppable engine of dot-com success. Today, 430,000 Americans earn all or most of their living from eBay sales. A total an utter horseshit figure. Off by at least two decimal places.
Under the ongoing Bush recession, some may actually be trying to live
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On eBay, new meaning for ’spirited’ bidding Talking teddy bears, a possessed wedding dress. More sellers are hawking the haunted. By Gina Piccalo, Times Staff Writer 1/7/04 There was a time when eBay was just an Internet yard sale frequented by obsessive-compulsives and their enablers, a benign but unstoppable engine of dot-com success. Today, 430,000 Americans earn all or most of their living from eBay sales. Yet, in this, the company’s 10th year, eBay is still most infamous as a repository for humankind’s most shameless hucksterism. eBay’s auction list is now the stuff of legend – a human kidney, a moist towelette from the 1970s, an atheist’s soul, Justin Timberlake’s half-eaten French toast, even "absolutely nothing," which sold for $1.03. Having exhausted bad taste and banality, it appears eBay sellers have moved on to a new marketing strategy – the paranormal. Everything "haunted" is so hot, eBay could launch a new category. Last month, Mary Anderson of Hobart, Ind., sold her father’s haunted walking cane for $65,000 to GoldenPalace.com, the publicity-hungry online gambling site that in November paid $28,000 for a grilled cheese sandwich that featured the image of the Virgin Mary. Last July, a Missouri college student inspired 140,000 hits and interest from five authors, a screenwriter and a documentary crew after listing a wooden cabinet haunted by a spirit in Jewish folklore known as a dybbuk. The box sold for $280 to a university museum curator. Now dozens of eBay sellers are looking to cash in on the spirit world. According to this week’s listings, restless souls inhabit a wedding dress, a football jersey, an adding machine, a candy dish, even a potato chip and a pair of roller skates. eBay has no problem with these sales as long as the seller is offering something tangible. "It’s really up to the buyer whether they believe it’s haunted or not," says eBay spokesman Hani Durzy. Clearly, these sellers know their audience, folks who crave the adrenaline rush of a good scare or maybe skeptics who want to test fate. These listings are rich, vivid and earnest. They plead with the reader to believe. Descriptions are peppered with ALL CAPITAL LETTERS and flocks of exclamation points. Yet each one follows a strikingly similar plot line. The seller is typically at wit’s end. The haunted object, albeit rare and valuable, has made life a living hell. Sometimes there’s a creepy story from childhood explaining how the object was owned by a witch, dead relative, Civil War soldier, insane person or doll lover who cherished or cursed the possession. Often, the object was acquired at an estate sale or a murder scene. Occasionally, ex-husbands and ex-boyfriends are somehow to blame. The item itself is independently mobile with wandering eyes, the ability to talk or infuse its owner with "strange feelings." The family dog and cat steer clear of it. Children are made sleepless by it. And so, these weary folks turn to their last resort: eBay, where $1,000 is spent every second. This week’s auctions also offered a haunted tuning fork, haunted milking stool, haunted gravestone rubbing, haunted blanket, haunted bathtub and haunted Kendrell Bell Pittsburgh Steelers jersey. Entities also "inhabit" several music boxes, paintings and some teddy bears. "I hear cute little voices in my head and I think they are talking to me," the teddy bear seller writes. "They do talk friendly [in my head]." Dolls are the most popular ghost vessels. There’s a crying doll from Massapequa Park, N.Y. A doll from Red Bluff, Calif., that roams the house, once popping up in the refrigerator. A doll in Fort Myers, Fla., possessed by runaway slaves that scared the bejesus out of its seller. "This doll was on a rocking chair, the chair rocked back and forth and the doll turned her eyes toward me and leaned forward," the seller writes. The doll’s owner, the seller explains, lost her house to the Florida hurricanes last fall and needs the money to retire. (Initial offer: $100,000. Highest bid with six hours to go: $0.) The Virgin Mary is indiscriminately possessing food. Topping November’s grilled cheese sandwich manifestation, she has now appeared with the baby Jesus in a Lay’s Smokey Bacon Chip in Geraldton, Ontario. "I’m really, really freaked out right now about this, especially after the Tsunami Tragedy after Christmas," the seller writes. "I am beginning to think that the creaking in the kitchen may have been a warning." Other spirits have opted for more mundane possessions. There’s an adding machine in Abingdon, Md., that spits out an infinite number of nines. A pair of skates in Pendleton, Ind., take off at the sound of "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy." A liquor bottle in Bono, Ark., that may or may not have been owned by the Marquis de Sade gives its owner strange "sensuous" feelings. And then there’s the 23-year-old indestructible painted egg in Avon Lake, Ohio. "I keep hearing strange whispering noises ever since I got this egg," the seller writes. For Angel Hall of Verona, Ky., it’s a wedding dress that plagues her. She bought the size 10, floor-length silk and crinoline confection in September 1993 for $200 from a shop that was going out of business. While wearing it to marry "Dick," her second husband, she says, "I sort of had a sense like being able to conquer anything. I felt very confident. I felt very aggressive, like I was in somebody else’s body. I felt emotions that I don’t normally feel." The couple divorced six years later and Hall has since remarried. But she kept the dress, despite its bizarre behavior over the years. It moved from rack to rack in the closet after Hall hung it up. A mysterious brown stain in the shape of Africa appeared on it after it was cleaned. Several photographs of the dress are marred by a "bright, light blob." One night, she knotted the bottom of the plastic bag that was covering the dress. "The next morning . the bottom of the bag was unloosened and the ribbon was on the floor," she says. That’s when Hall decided to sell the dress. She doesn’t know what’s inhabiting the dress, but she hopes to make enough money from the sale to buy her two teenagers new instruments to play in their high school marching band. The highest bid as of Friday morning was just $34.33; her sale ends Sunday. All this conjecture leads to parapsychologist Larry Montz, founder of Los Angeles-based International Society for Paranormal Research. He’s a firm believer in "entities." But, he says, they rarely inhabit objects. Ghosts haunt for a reason, he says, to tell the story of their death, protect their families or extend their "life." Sure, Montz says, there was a Corvette haunted by the guy who never got to drive it. And a woman’s portrait haunted by her dead husband. But typically, Montz says, "possessions are not really relevant once you’re dead." But they sure can pay off for the living.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What I would do is find out exactly how much they can take the dress in & how much it is going to cost. If it is really as expensive as you think it will be to alter it enough, order it in a size 6 or and 8 and sell the bigger one. At least that’s what i would do:)Robyn no time to order a 3rd dress – it took 2 months each time and there is only about 5-6 weeks left
Bummer. I didn’t realize that it took 8 weeks. My duaghter in law ordered her bridesmaids’ dresses from them & I didn’t remember it taking that long. We also had issues with a bridesmaid losing weight after she ordered her dress. I guess your only option is to just have it taken in as much as possible & stand up straight & look gorgeous:) I looked at the picture and it is a pretty dress, hopefully they can take it in enough so that you are happy with the way that you look. Robyn
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What I would do is find out exactly how much they can take the dress in & how much it is going to cost. If it is really as expensive as you think it will be to alter it enough, order it in a size 6 or and 8 and sell the bigger one. At least that’s what i would do:)Robyn no time to order a 3rd dress – it took 2 months each time and there is only about 5-6 weeks left Bummer. I didn’t realize that it took 8 weeks. My duaghter in law ordered her bridesmaids’ dresses from them & I didn’t remember it taking that long. We also had issues with a bridesmaid losing weight after she ordered her dress. I guess your only option is to just have it taken in as much as possible & stand up straight & look gorgeous:) I looked at the picture and it is a pretty dress, hopefully they can take it in enough so that you are happy with the way that you look. Robyn
It’s funny – the girls are all wearing different styles but the same color. i chose my style because it had belly camoflage!! I didn’t know I’d be 30lbs down or more bythe wedding!
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Would it work to inventively pad out your body enough to fit into the dress.
no – that’s retarded Would be cheap. Not require remake of dress. You are never gonna wear the dress again, right?
I could wear it to a wedding, formal event or on a cruise. It’s nice. Keeps you going along happily on your weight loss program. Your Bride friend would prefer that you look out for yourself and your health before "looking beautiful" in the chorus line of bridemaids, surely?
No – brides want the pictures to look nice LOL Ask your bride friend for her advice.
She has enough stress right now!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jim I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different size in time. So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!! My dilemma is this: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I won’t be able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to stop now!! I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make it fit me well enough. Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are coming up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to give up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just freaking out!! One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of fruit – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my discipline… Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me nuts!! JoAnna 176/146/120 — Keepsake gift for young girls. Unique and personal one-of-a-kind. Builds strong minds 12 ways. Guaranteed satisfaction – courteous money back – keep bonus gifts http://www.alicebook.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can you run some numbers by us? What weight do you expect to be at at the wedding date, and what weight would make your dress look good? i Well – the dress is already a full size too large so it’s already trouble. If I stay exactly as I am and have it altered I won’t have to worry about the altered dress being too big. Maybe I didn’t make that clear. If I get the dress altered from a 12 down to a 10 then lose more weight I will have problems. I don’t have a projected weight for 6 weeks from now but I have been losing 4-8lbs a month. I find that pants that fit one week are loose the next! I am not wasting away – LOL – but I don’t want to put the brakes on either!! I figure if I keep losing then put off alterations as long as possible it may work out. If you showing up in a dress too big would not upset the bride too much, I would say do not bother altering. Besides the bride, no one is likely to give a shit, and if they do notice, it will be a positive thing like "oh, this girl must have lost weight". I spent 6 months wearing XL clothes after losing weight, even though I was size M. (I was not sure if I was or was not going to regain, so I did not want to be like an idiot buying all brand new clothes and then regaining).
I’m sure you looked lovely. At least I am keeping up apperances shopping at thrift shops!! I got some Calvins and Gap jeans for 1$ and 6$ and a lot of nice shirts and 2 awesome cool jackets at Salvation Army! Not to mention my new Frye platform boots that were only $7!! Also, small alterations are not incredibly difficult if you have a sewing machine or a friend with one. Just a bit of alteration in the waist area may be "good enuff". It’s not your wedding after all. — 223/172.4/180
This is NY people – looks count. I must have the dress at least altered from a 12 to 10, after that I don’t know if there is anything i can do. I am not taking an evening gown to my sewing machine – no way jose.
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::: Just wear a dress that is too big and don’t sweat it. Stopping your ::: weight ::: loss for a wedding would be completely nuts. :: :: :: You have obviously never been a bride or a bridesmaiid LOL!!! Very true. That is definite not part of the plan for me! For :: one thing the dress looks ridiculously big right now. The bride & :: groom are spending alot of money on photos and I can’t show up in a :: big baggy tent of a dress! I’ve lost 5 inches in my hips since :: june!!! and a few inches in the chest, belly and waist also! The :: dress must be altered, I guess you mean if it’s a little big after :: that it’s ok? If the dress must be altered, then it will be. Waiting as long as you can and living with a slightly too big dress won’t be the end of your or their world – even if it were a baggy tent dress! Protect your weight loss and any cost. Everyone knows how hard it can be for lots of poeple to even get weight loss started. :: :::
::::: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ::::: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I ::::: would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could ::::: return it and re-order a different size in time. ::::: ::::: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered ::::: the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked ::::: up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally ::::: altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the ::::: damn dress and I am broke right now!! ::::: ::::: My dilemma is this: ::::: ::::: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then ::::: restart after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I ::::: am scared I won’t be able to get back on track or that If I ::::: loosen up a bit I will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go ::::: and I don’t want to stop now!! ::::: ::::: I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible ::::: to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make ::::: it fit me well enough. ::::: ::::: Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are ::::: coming up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to ::::: give up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just ::::: freaking out!! ::::: ::::: One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads ::::: with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of ::::: fruit – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my ::::: discipline… ::::: ::::: Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me ::::: nuts!! JoAnna ::::: 176/146/120
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::: :::: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We :::: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I :::: would be soon. So ::: when ::: I :::: ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a :::: different size in time. :::: :::: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered :::: the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up :::: my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered :::: and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn :::: dress and I am broke right now!! :::: ::: ::: The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor about ::: the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting all worked ::: up for nothing. After all, the difference between a 12 and a 10 ::: isn’t that big of ::: a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be too ::: big around. It is possible that the tailor (or you) could just ::: baste it on the ::: inside to make it tighter. ::: ::: Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some ::: professional advice. That won’t cost anything. ::: ::: Pat in TX ::: ::: :: :: I spoke to the alterations person at the bridal shop. She said the :: dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean 12 :: to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8. If I wore the dress how it is :: now it looks very silly!! :: :: This is the dress, I dunno if the link will work :: http://www.davidsbridal.com/bridesmaids_dresses_bycolor_detail.jsp?st… :: but it’s style 8158 in Apple red. :: :: it’s just too big allover right now. Is that you in the dress? Oh boy!
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What I would do is find out exactly how much they can take the dress in & how much it is going to cost. If it is really as expensive as you think it will be to alter it enough, order it in a size 6 or and 8 and sell the bigger one. At least that’s what i would do:)Robyn
no time to order a 3rd dress – it took 2 months each time and there is only about 5-6 weeks left
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Your health is more important than a dress or a wedding! Health lasts forever, if you drop out of a diet that’s working, you may be fat for years yet. Ask the bride what she would prefer: you HEALTHY in a dress tucked together with safety pins, or you HEALTHY in the audience and someone else wearing the dress. If she says she wants you UNHEALTHY in the dress, skip the wedding. Auntie Lonelyhearts I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different size in time. So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!!
Are you sure they sent a 12? Try on some dresses from a rack, see if those 12s fit you. If they sent the wrong size or their 12 isn’t standard, then make them Fedex you something with the right waist-size, at their expense. Who is going to be looking that close at a bridesmaid’s dress anyway? Who is going to be counting the safety pins?
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It is a wonderful thing. Is it such a burden to apologize to the other wedding guests for losing weight? I say, wear the oversize dress with pride. Think of it as showing off. I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different size in time. So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!! My dilemma is this: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I won’t be able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to stop now!! I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make it fit me well enough. Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are coming up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to give up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just freaking out!! One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of fruit – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my discipline… Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me nuts!! JoAnna 176/146/120
Wear it, one size too big isn’t going to be noticable anyway. GAWD! how I wish I owned something that was too big for me LOL!!!
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Would it work to inventively pad out your body enough to fit into the dress. Would be cheap. Not require remake of dress. You are never gonna wear the dress again, right? Keeps you going along happily on your weight loss program. Your Bride friend would prefer that you look out for yourself and your health before "looking beautiful" in the chorus line of bridemaids, surely? Ask your bride friend for her advice. Jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different size in time. So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!! My dilemma is this: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I won’t be able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to stop now!! I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make it fit me well enough. Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are coming up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to give up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just freaking out!! One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of fruit – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my discipline… Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me nuts!! JoAnna 176/146/120
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our : dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when I : ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different size : in time. : : So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, : well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress and : it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10. It’ll : probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!! : The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor about the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting all worked up for nothing. After all, the difference between a 12 and a 10 isn’t that big of a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be too big around. It is possible that the tailor (or you) could just baste it on the inside to make it tighter. Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some professional advice. That won’t cost anything. Pat in TX
I spoke to the alterations person at the bridal shop. She said the dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean 12 to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8. If I wore the dress how it is now it looks very silly!! This is the dress, I dunno if the link will work http://www.davidsbridal.com/bridesmaids_dresses_bycolor_detail.jsp?st… but it’s style 8158 in Apple red. it’s just too big allover right now.
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Just wear a dress that is too big and don’t sweat it. Stopping your weight loss for a wedding would be completely nuts.
You have obviously never been a bride or a bridesmaiid LOL!!! For one thing the dress looks ridiculously big right now. The bride & groom are spending alot of money on photos and I can’t show up in a big baggy tent of a dress! I’ve lost 5 inches in my hips since june!!! and a few inches in the chest, belly and waist also! The dress must be altered, I guess you mean if it’s a little big after that it’s ok? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We :: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I :: would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could return :: it and re-order a different size in time. :: :: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the :: 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my :: new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and :: remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and :: I am broke right now!! :: :: My dilemma is this: :: :: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart :: after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I :: won’t be able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I :: will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to :: stop now!! :: :: I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible :: to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make :: it fit me well enough. :: :: Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are :: coming up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to give :: up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just :: freaking out!! :: :: One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads :: with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of fruit :: – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my discipline… :: :: Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me nuts!! :: JoAnna :: 176/146/120
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How long does a dress take to get to you once it’s ordered? Wait until the last possible minute and order the size you are then. If it’s a little big, who cares? It’s the brides day. Jennifer
it takes 2 months – or "duh" of course I would just get another dress. i thought I said there isn’t time for that…thanks anyway. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :::::: ::::::: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ::::::: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I ::::::: would be soon. So :::::: when :::::: I ::::::: ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a ::::::: different size in time. ::::::: ::::::: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered ::::::: the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked ::::::: up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally ::::::: altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as ::::::: the damn dress and I am broke right now!! ::::::: :::::: :::::: The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor :::::: about the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting :::::: all worked up for nothing. After all, the difference between a :::::: 12 and a 10 isn’t that big of :::::: a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be :::::: too big around. It is possible that the tailor (or you) could :::::: just baste it on the :::::: inside to make it tighter. :::::: :::::: Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some :::::: professional advice. That won’t cost anything. :::::: :::::: Pat in TX :::::: :::::: ::::: ::::: I spoke to the alterations person at the bridal shop. She said the ::::: dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean ::::: 12 to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8. If I wore the dress how ::::: it is now it looks very silly!! ::::: ::::: This is the dress, I dunno if the link will work ::::: ::: http://www.davidsbridal.com/bridesmaids_dresses_bycolor_detail.jsp?st… ::::: but it’s style 8158 in Apple red. ::::: ::::: it’s just too big allover right now. ::: ::: Is that you in the dress? Oh boy! ::: ::: :: :: No – that girl’s dress fits 
( I knew that! Don’t worry, you’ll look fine if you can wait a big. Just don’t have it made to fit too tightly….then you’ll put a jinx on yourself! yeah – I feel a bit calmer and I emailed the Bride. She’s so mellow and funny! Congratulating me on the success and saying to do what I want! Anyway – I will call the seamstress now and see what she says. Maybe We can have the alterations done 1-2 weeks beofre the wedding and it’ll be ok. someone actually suggested I pad my body to make the dress fit!! ack!
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She said the dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean 12 to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8.
That is exactly what she meant. The difference in size is really quite small. Peace, Pen
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What I would do is find out exactly how much they can take the dress in & how much it is going to cost. If it is really as expensive as you think it will be to alter it enough, order it in a size 6 or and 8 and sell the bigger one. At least that’s what i would do:)Robyn
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Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I won’t be able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to stop now!!
I wouldn’t stop. If I hadn’t fallen off the wagon a year ago, I’d be at goal right now. It seems harder to re-start than it is to start and keep going. Been there, done that, the t-shirt is too tight. Carol — "I’m a loner … a rebel!" *Paul Reubens* in the 1985 movie, _Pee Wee’s Big Adventure_
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:::::: ::::::: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ::::::: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I ::::::: would be soon. So :::::: when :::::: I ::::::: ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a ::::::: different size in time. ::::::: ::::::: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered ::::::: the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked ::::::: up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally ::::::: altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as ::::::: the damn dress and I am broke right now!! ::::::: :::::: :::::: The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor :::::: about the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting :::::: all worked up for nothing. After all, the difference between a :::::: 12 and a 10 isn’t that big of :::::: a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be :::::: too big around. It is possible that the tailor (or you) could :::::: just baste it on the :::::: inside to make it tighter. :::::: :::::: Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some :::::: professional advice. That won’t cost anything. :::::: :::::: Pat in TX :::::: :::::: ::::: ::::: I spoke to the alterations person at the bridal shop. She said the ::::: dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean ::::: 12 to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8. If I wore the dress how ::::: it is now it looks very silly!! ::::: ::::: This is the dress, I dunno if the link will work ::::: ::: http://www.davidsbridal.com/bridesmaids_dresses_bycolor_detail.jsp?st… ::::: but it’s style 8158 in Apple red. ::::: ::::: it’s just too big allover right now. ::: ::: Is that you in the dress? Oh boy! ::: ::: :: :: No – that girl’s dress fits ( I knew that! Don’t worry, you’ll look fine if you can wait a big. Just don’t have it made to fit too tightly….then you’ll put a jinx on yourself!
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :::::: ::::::: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ::::::: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I ::::::: would be soon. So :::::: when :::::: I ::::::: ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a ::::::: different size in time. ::::::: ::::::: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered ::::::: the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked ::::::: up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally ::::::: altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as ::::::: the damn dress and I am broke right now!! ::::::: :::::: :::::: The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor :::::: about the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting :::::: all worked up for nothing. After all, the difference between a :::::: 12 and a 10 isn’t that big of :::::: a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be :::::: too big around. It is possible that the tailor (or you) could :::::: just baste it on the :::::: inside to make it tighter. :::::: :::::: Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some :::::: professional advice. That won’t cost anything. :::::: :::::: Pat in TX :::::: :::::: ::::: ::::: I spoke to the alterations person at the bridal shop. She said the ::::: dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean ::::: 12 to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8. If I wore the dress how ::::: it is now it looks very silly!! ::::: ::::: This is the dress, I dunno if the link will work ::::: ::: http://www.davidsbridal.com/bridesmaids_dresses_bycolor_detail.jsp?st… ::::: but it’s style 8158 in Apple red. ::::: ::::: it’s just too big allover right now. ::: ::: Is that you in the dress? Oh boy! ::: ::: :: :: No – that girl’s dress fits ( I knew that! Don’t worry, you’ll look fine if you can wait a big. Just don’t have it made to fit too tightly….then you’ll put a jinx on yourself!
yeah – I feel a bit calmer and I emailed the Bride. She’s so mellow and funny! Congratulating me on the success and saying to do what I want! Anyway – I will call the seamstress now and see what she says. Maybe We can have the alterations done 1-2 weeks beofre the wedding and it’ll be ok. someone actually suggested I pad my body to make the dress fit!! ack!
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How long does a dress take to get to you once it’s ordered? Wait until the last possible minute and order the size you are then. If it’s a little big, who cares? It’s the brides day. Jennifer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :::::: ::::::: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ::::::: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I ::::::: would be soon. So :::::: when :::::: I ::::::: ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a ::::::: different size in time. ::::::: ::::::: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered ::::::: the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked ::::::: up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally ::::::: altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as ::::::: the damn dress and I am broke right now!! ::::::: :::::: :::::: The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor :::::: about the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting :::::: all worked up for nothing. After all, the difference between a :::::: 12 and a 10 isn’t that big of :::::: a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be :::::: too big around. It is possible that the tailor (or you) could :::::: just baste it on the :::::: inside to make it tighter. :::::: :::::: Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some :::::: professional advice. That won’t cost anything. :::::: :::::: Pat in TX :::::: :::::: ::::: ::::: I spoke to the alterations person at the bridal shop. She said the ::::: dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean ::::: 12 to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8. If I wore the dress how ::::: it is now it looks very silly!! ::::: ::::: This is the dress, I dunno if the link will work ::::: ::: http://www.davidsbridal.com/bridesmaids_dresses_bycolor_detail.jsp?st… ::::: but it’s style 8158 in Apple red. ::::: ::::: it’s just too big allover right now. ::: ::: Is that you in the dress? Oh boy! ::: ::: :: :: No – that girl’s dress fits ( I knew that! Don’t worry, you’ll look fine if you can wait a big. Just don’t have it made to fit too tightly….then you’ll put a jinx on yourself! yeah – I feel a bit calmer and I emailed the Bride. She’s so mellow and funny! Congratulating me on the success and saying to do what I want! Anyway – I will call the seamstress now and see what she says. Maybe We can have the alterations done 1-2 weeks beofre the wedding and it’ll be ok. someone actually suggested I pad my body to make the dress fit!! ack!
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It is a wonderful thing. Is it such a burden to apologize to the other wedding guests for losing weight? I say, wear the oversize dress with pride. Think of it as showing off.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different size in time. So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!! My dilemma is this: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I won’t be able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to stop now!! I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make it fit me well enough. Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are coming up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to give up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just freaking out!! One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of fruit – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my discipline… Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me nuts!! JoAnna 176/146/120
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ::: :::: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We :::: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I :::: would be soon. So ::: when ::: I :::: ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a :::: different size in time. :::: :::: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered :::: the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up :::: my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered :::: and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn :::: dress and I am broke right now!! :::: ::: ::: The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor about ::: the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting all worked ::: up for nothing. After all, the difference between a 12 and a 10 ::: isn’t that big of ::: a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be too ::: big around. It is possible that the tailor (or you) could just ::: baste it on the ::: inside to make it tighter. ::: ::: Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some ::: professional advice. That won’t cost anything. ::: ::: Pat in TX ::: ::: :: :: I spoke to the alterations person at the bridal shop. She said the :: dress can be taken in 2 sizes, maybe I misunderstood that to mean 12 :: to 10 – but maybe it can go down to 8. If I wore the dress how it is :: now it looks very silly!! :: :: This is the dress, I dunno if the link will work :: http://www.davidsbridal.com/bridesmaids_dresses_bycolor_detail.jsp?st… :: but it’s style 8158 in Apple red. :: :: it’s just too big allover right now. Is that you in the dress? Oh boy!
No – that girl’s dress fits (
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I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different size in time. So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!! My dilemma is this: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I won’t be able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to stop now!! I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make it fit me well enough. Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are coming up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to give up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just freaking out!! One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of fruit – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my discipline… Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me nuts!! JoAnna 176/146/120
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: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We ordered our : dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I would be soon. So when I : ordered my dress I made sure I could return it and re-order a different size : in time. : : So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the 12, : well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my new dress and : it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and remade into a 10. It’ll : probably cost as much as the damn dress and I am broke right now!! : The way I read this, you haven’t actually talked to a tailor about the problem. You are speculating. Maybe you are getting all worked up for nothing. After all, the difference between a 12 and a 10 isn’t that big of a deal. It’s not going to fall off of your shoulders—just be too big around. It is possible that the tailor (or you) could just baste it on the inside to make it tighter. Don’t go off the diet. Stop worrying and just go get some professional advice. That won’t cost anything. Pat in TX
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Can you run some numbers by us? What weight do you expect to be at at the wedding date, and what weight would make your dress look good? i
Well – the dress is already a full size too large so it’s already trouble. If I stay exactly as I am and have it altered I won’t have to worry about the altered dress being too big. Maybe I didn’t make that clear. If I get the dress altered from a 12 down to a 10 then lose more weight I will have problems. I don’t have a projected weight for 6 weeks from now but I have been losing 4-8lbs a month. I find that pants that fit one week are loose the next! I am not wasting away – LOL – but I don’t want to put the brakes on either!! I figure if I keep losing then put off alterations as long as possible it may work out.
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Just wear a dress that is too big and don’t sweat it. Stopping your weight loss for a wedding would be completely nuts.
:: I am going to be a bridesmaid at the beginning of december. We :: ordered our dresses in June, before I went LC but when I knew I :: would be soon. So when I ordered my dress I made sure I could return :: it and re-order a different size in time. :: :: So the dress was in in august and the 14 was huge so we ordered the :: 12, well – I should’ve ordered the 10 because I just picked up my :: new dress and it’s too big. i have to have it totally altered and :: remade into a 10. It’ll probably cost as much as the damn dress and :: I am broke right now!! :: :: My dilemma is this: :: :: Should I just try to stop losing for the next month and then restart :: after the wedding? Inside I am screaming NOOOOOOOO and I am scared I :: won’t be able to get back on track or that If I loosen up a bit I :: will start to slide. I have 26lbs left to go and I don’t want to :: stop now!! :: :: I am thinking that I will keep losing and wait as long as possible :: to have the dress altered, I am worried they won’t be able to make :: it fit me well enough. :: :: Really – Halloween, Thanksgiving and the family birthdays that are :: coming up do not make this an appealing time for me to want to give :: up. I know I can go to a maintenance plan – I dunno I’m just :: freaking out!! :: :: One thought was to maybe add Oatmeal at breakfast, have my salads :: with chicken for lunch, dinner as usual, maybe add a piece of fruit :: – but I am scared I’ll start craving or lose my discipline… :: :: Wahhhhhhhh. i know I am ranting – sorry. it’s just making me nuts!! :: JoAnna :: 176/146/120
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i broke up with an ex via e mail to me , this fact reflects her cowardness to say things on my face the girl pretended that we still be friends after that. of course i banned her mail address from mine and cut all contact with her, a person that has not the GUTS to speak openly has NO place in my life
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"megaloser" <roberander…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b70fcd57.0410242302.1c98886a@posting.google.com… >i broke up with an ex via e mail > to me , this fact reflects her cowardness to say things on my face > the girl pretended that we still be friends after that. > of course i banned her mail address from mine and cut all contact > with her, a person that has not the GUTS to speak openly has NO place > in my life
Where you from Robert?
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"Otto Ramone" <tryingh…@NOSPAMprodigy.net> wrote in message
news:T0Ied.23171$Qv5.12279@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com… > At least she told him, instead of just vanishing.
Dark glasses, a trenchcoat and a fake nose on centre court withstanding, I imagine it would be pretty hard to vanish as a world-ranked tennis star. I’m thinking the jig might be up once he saw the telltale Belgian waffle crumbs on her fake moustache.
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"Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2tvggcF234rtcU1@uni-berlin.de… > Even if you don’t like Hewitt (or know who he is, you might not be tennis > fans like me) Clijsters’ conduct was pretty appaling. She seems to have > dumped him in the "girl power" way, gutless over the phone with no > consideration for his feelings, just a sudden "meh, I wanna try someone > else, you’re history"
Based on the above paragraph alone, you should submit a resume to "National Enquirer". You’re a shoo-in. >ending to a 5 year relationship. > That’s how women like to do it these days… sticking the knife in as deep > as possible without warning and without remorse.
Imagine if there were Islamic laws allowing men to divorce their wives via text messaging! That could never happen though, because men are above that sort of thing, and I know for certain (based on channeled Darkfalzian intuition powers) that no man has ever ended a relationship via phone, text message or letter…in fact, why stop there? No man has ever ended a relationship, period! How did you and cr8ive split again? > I called myself a fan before this but I won’t watch another of her > matches unless it’s her getting her arse kicked.
Will you consult the stars or tea-leaves to pencil that into your schedule? >Heck, she drops right > down there with Serena Williams and Andy Knobbick on my shit list > after this.
I heard a rumour that she is so loathsome that she sometimes fakes her identity on internet dating sites (complete with fraudulent photos) in a twisted bid to demonstrate what a far superior person she is than those whom she dupes…but it might be an urban myth. Obviously (considering your totally impartial and unbiased perspective, and the fact the two stories have coincided in all high-quality media sources) the second half of your post in which you breathlessly reported Mark Phillipoussis’ dumping of Delta Goodrem for Paris Hilton (oh the tennis scandals!) was somehow inexplicably cut off. Appal(l)ing! But let me guess…that was Paris Hilton’s fault, and Mark is the mere victim in all of that. Evil wenches. Keep fighting the good fight – imparting the essence of the bastions of journalistic integrity that you evidently thoroughly research to provide the substantiated (‘the friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of the woman sitting next to me at the hairdresser’s butcher said…’) bibliographical resources that give your posts the edge over the ill-informed masses who don’t read gossip columns.
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At least she told him, instead of just vanishing. "Darkfalz" <darkfalz.use…@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2tvggcF234rtcU1@uni-berlin.de… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Even if you don’t like Hewitt (or know who he is, you might not be tennis > fans like me) Clijsters’ conduct was pretty appaling. She seems to have > dumped him in the "girl power" way, gutless over the phone with no > consideration for his feelings, just a sudden "meh, I wanna try someone > else, you’re history" ending to a 5 year relationship. > That’s how women like to do it these days… sticking the knife in as deep > as possible without warning and without remorse. > I called myself a fan before this but I won’t watch another of her > matches unless it’s her getting her arse kicked. Heck, she drops right > down there with Serena Williams and Andy Knobbick on my shit list > after this. > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11169696%255E421,00.html > Hewitt distraught at split > By Ian Haberfield, Ben English and Rosanne Michie > October 24, 2004 > LLEYTON Hewitt has told friends of his heartbreak and shock when > fiancee Kim Clijsters dumped him. > Clijsters, 21, phoned Hewitt on Thursday night to end their five-year > relationship without giving a reason. > On Friday she posted a brief statement on her website announcing the > split. > But reports from Belgium say the injured star cancelled her wedding > dress weeks ago. > Last night a distraught Hewitt was believed to have fled overseas. > "He’s angry, embarrassed, devastated, distraught – all of that stuff," > .a friend of Hewitt’s said. > "He’s been kicked in the guts and he’s been kicked in the guts > internationally and embarrassingly. > "He had a few warning signs but when it came it came as a huge shock. > "There were some signs she might have cold feet about the wedding > after the US Open but then he thought everything was OK," the friend > said. > Dress Designer Nicky Vankets, who was to make Clijsters’ wedding > dress, said he had known for more than a week but was not allowed to > tell anyone. > Friends of Hewitt said the Aussie star had some inkling all was not > well but were floored when Clijsters ended their engagement over the > phone. > Hewitt, 23, withdrew from the Madrid Masters tournament this week, > citing unspecified personal reasons. > He has been holidaying in Darwin this week with his friend Adelaide > footballer Andrew McLeod. > Early yesterday, Hewitt was relaxing with mates at Darwin’s Discovery > nightclub. > Hewitt partied in the VIP section of the club, a private bar > overlooking the main dance floor, in the city’s main entertainment > strip in Mitchell St. > Hewitt was due back in Adelaide last night to attend a 36ers > basketball match but he phoned coach Phil Smythe to say he couldn’t > make it and had to get out of the country. > Instead he is believed to have flown straight to Paris. > Differences between the two mothers about the makeup of the wedding > party and its location are rumoured to be behind the split. > Clijsters is said to have been suffering stress in helping with > wedding arrangements in two countries as well as coping with the > anxiety of a wrist injury which has ruined her tennis year. > One Adelaide friend said "there has been a lot of trouble over who was > going to be in the wedding party". > Another friend said Hewitt was "doing pretty well in the > circumstances" and was slowly coming to the realisation it is better > the split happened now rather after they were married. > "He doesn’t know if there is anyone else involved but Lleyton > certainly isn’t seeing anyone else," he said. > "He doesn’t know if things got too much for her." > Friends say the Hewitt family thinks a reconciliation unlikely because > of the "cold" way Clijsters ended the relationship. > "He (Lleyton) doesn’t know if a reconciliation is possible but he > doesn’t hold out a lot of hope," a friend said. > Lleyton’s grandfather Max Hewitt, who was speaking from his home, at > Glengowrie in SA, was shocked after hearing the news. > "We’ve only just found out, it’s a big surprise," he said. > "We are trying to find out what happened, we have no idea what went > wrong." > Hewitt was due to fly from Darwin to Paris yesterday – a flight > originally booked so he could meet up with Clijsters in her home town > of Bree, 80km east of Brussels. > Instead, Hewitt will spend the next week in France preparing for the > Paris Masters next month. > Meanwhile, Clijsters has been visiting night clubs and shops near her > home in the past two weeks. > Yesterday, her father Leo appeared in the driveway of the gated family > home saying only that his daughter had no intention of speaking to the > press. > Speaking outside the family home, he said: "Its private – between > Lleyton and Kim," he said, > "She has not spoken to anybody in Belgium about it." > However, Mr Clijsters revealed he had spoken to Hewitt on Friday > afternoon, nearly 24 hours after his daughter announced the split. > Clijsters has been seen driving her yellow Porche 4WD around the area, > sometimes dropping into the village for a waffle with her sister, > Elke. > Tennis insiders said yesterday Kim Clijsters decision to end her > relationship with Lleyton Hewitt may have been coming for months. > Many had thought it strange when Clijsters did not take her customary > position alongside Hewitt’s mum Cherilyn and dad Glynn at either > Wimbledon or the US Open. > Friends of Hewitt describe Clijsters as a lovely person but with a > fondness for "control". > "Now there’s a cocktail for you … when you throw in Cherilyn and > Glynn. I think there were issues with them, although they always > seemed to support her," one friend said. > Hewitt’s Davis Cup teammate Todd Woodbridge says he was shocked to > hear of the split. > "I’m staggered to hear that news," he said yesterday. > "It was one out of left field for me. I hadn’t foreseen anything like > that happening. > "It’s a shock. If there’s anything you’d say perhaps it would just be > the distance that was between them at times. Although they managed to > keep a really strong relationship together. > "Kim was front row at the Davis Cup last year cheering like she was a > full blown citizen here." > The former lovers may not come face-to-face until the Australian Open > in January but that will only occur if Clijsters recovers from her > wrist injury. > Tennis’ glamour couple were to be married in Adelaide in February with > another celebration later at a Belgian chateau. > Two wedding ceremonies had been planned to satisfy the wishes of > parents Glynn and Cherilyn Hewitt and Clijsters’ parents Leo and Els. > Hewitt proposed to Clijsters aboard a Sydney Harbour cruise last year, > presenting her with an impressive diamond solitaire ring. > The two former No. 1 tennis players have been together for almost five > years. > They met at the Australian Open in 2000 when Kim’s sister Elke asked > her to get Hewitt’s autograph.
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He should hire someone to throw battery acid in her face. That fucking whore. The bitch must pay … – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Darkfalz wrote: > Even if you don’t like Hewitt (or know who he is, you might not be tennis > fans like me) Clijsters’ conduct was pretty appaling. She seems to have > dumped him in the "girl power" way, gutless over the phone with no > consideration for his feelings, just a sudden "meh, I wanna try someone > else, you’re history" ending to a 5 year relationship. > That’s how women like to do it these days… sticking the knife in as deep > as possible without warning and without remorse. > I called myself a fan before this but I won’t watch another of her > matches unless it’s her getting her arse kicked. Heck, she drops right > down there with Serena Williams and Andy Knobbick on my shit list > after this. > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11169696%255E421,00.html > Hewitt distraught at split > By Ian Haberfield, Ben English and Rosanne Michie > October 24, 2004 > LLEYTON Hewitt has told friends of his heartbreak and shock when > fiancee Kim Clijsters dumped him. > Clijsters, 21, phoned Hewitt on Thursday night to end their five-year > relationship without giving a reason. > On Friday she posted a brief statement on her website announcing the > split. > But reports from Belgium say the injured star cancelled her wedding > dress weeks ago. > Last night a distraught Hewitt was believed to have fled overseas. > "He’s angry, embarrassed, devastated, distraught – all of that stuff," > .a friend of Hewitt’s said. > "He’s been kicked in the guts and he’s been kicked in the guts > internationally and embarrassingly. > "He had a few warning signs but when it came it came as a huge shock. > "There were some signs she might have cold feet about the wedding > after the US Open but then he thought everything was OK," the friend > said. > Dress Designer Nicky Vankets, who was to make Clijsters’ wedding > dress, said he had known for more than a week but was not allowed to > tell anyone. > Friends of Hewitt said the Aussie star had some inkling all was not > well but were floored when Clijsters ended their engagement over the > phone. > Hewitt, 23, withdrew from the Madrid Masters tournament this week, > citing unspecified personal reasons. > He has been holidaying in Darwin this week with his friend Adelaide > footballer Andrew McLeod. > Early yesterday, Hewitt was relaxing with mates at Darwin’s Discovery > nightclub. > Hewitt partied in the VIP section of the club, a private bar > overlooking the main dance floor, in the city’s main entertainment > strip in Mitchell St. > Hewitt was due back in Adelaide last night to attend a 36ers > basketball match but he phoned coach Phil Smythe to say he couldn’t > make it and had to get out of the country. > Instead he is believed to have flown straight to Paris. > Differences between the two mothers about the makeup of the wedding > party and its location are rumoured to be behind the split. > Clijsters is said to have been suffering stress in helping with > wedding arrangements in two countries as well as coping with the > anxiety of a wrist injury which has ruined her tennis year. > One Adelaide friend said "there has been a lot of trouble over who was > going to be in the wedding party". > Another friend said Hewitt was "doing pretty well in the > circumstances" and was slowly coming to the realisation it is better > the split happened now rather after they were married. > "He doesn’t know if there is anyone else involved but Lleyton > certainly isn’t seeing anyone else," he said. > "He doesn’t know if things got too much for her." > Friends say the Hewitt family thinks a reconciliation unlikely because > of the "cold" way Clijsters ended the relationship. > "He (Lleyton) doesn’t know if a reconciliation is possible but he > doesn’t hold out a lot of hope," a friend said. > Lleyton’s grandfather Max Hewitt, who was speaking from his home, at > Glengowrie in SA, was shocked after hearing the news. > "We’ve only just found out, it’s a big surprise," he said. > "We are trying to find out what happened, we have no idea what went > wrong." > Hewitt was due to fly from Darwin to Paris yesterday – a flight > originally booked so he could meet up with Clijsters in her home town > of Bree, 80km east of Brussels. > Instead, Hewitt will spend the next week in France preparing for the > Paris Masters next month. > Meanwhile, Clijsters has been visiting night clubs and shops near her > home in the past two weeks. > Yesterday, her father Leo appeared in the driveway of the gated family > home saying only that his daughter had no intention of speaking to the > press. > Speaking outside the family home, he said: "Its private – between > Lleyton and Kim," he said, > "She has not spoken to anybody in Belgium about it." > However, Mr Clijsters revealed he had spoken to Hewitt on Friday > afternoon, nearly 24 hours after his daughter announced the split. > Clijsters has been seen driving her yellow Porche 4WD around the area, > sometimes dropping into the village for a waffle with her sister, > Elke. > Tennis insiders said yesterday Kim Clijsters decision to end her > relationship with Lleyton Hewitt may have been coming for months. > Many had thought it strange when Clijsters did not take her customary > position alongside Hewitt’s mum Cherilyn and dad Glynn at either > Wimbledon or the US Open. > Friends of Hewitt describe Clijsters as a lovely person but with a > fondness for "control". > "Now there’s a cocktail for you … when you throw in Cherilyn and > Glynn. I think there were issues with them, although they always > seemed to support her," one friend said. > Hewitt’s Davis Cup teammate Todd Woodbridge says he was shocked to > hear of the split. > "I’m staggered to hear that news," he said yesterday. > "It was one out of left field for me. I hadn’t foreseen anything like > that happening. > "It’s a shock. If there’s anything you’d say perhaps it would just be > the distance that was between them at times. Although they managed to > keep a really strong relationship together. > "Kim was front row at the Davis Cup last year cheering like she was a > full blown citizen here." > The former lovers may not come face-to-face until the Australian Open > in January but that will only occur if Clijsters recovers from her > wrist injury. > Tennis’ glamour couple were to be married in Adelaide in February with > another celebration later at a Belgian chateau. > Two wedding ceremonies had been planned to satisfy the wishes of > parents Glynn and Cherilyn Hewitt and Clijsters’ parents Leo and Els. > Hewitt proposed to Clijsters aboard a Sydney Harbour cruise last year, > presenting her with an impressive diamond solitaire ring. > The two former No. 1 tennis players have been together for almost five > years. > They met at the Australian Open in 2000 when Kim’s sister Elke asked > her to get Hewitt’s autograph.
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Even if you don’t like Hewitt (or know who he is, you might not be tennis fans like me) Clijsters’ conduct was pretty appaling. She seems to have dumped him in the "girl power" way, gutless over the phone with no consideration for his feelings, just a sudden "meh, I wanna try someone else, you’re history" ending to a 5 year relationship. That’s how women like to do it these days… sticking the knife in as deep as possible without warning and without remorse. I called myself a fan before this but I won’t watch another of her matches unless it’s her getting her arse kicked. Heck, she drops right down there with Serena Williams and Andy Knobbick on my shit list after this. http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11169696%255E421,00.html Hewitt distraught at split By Ian Haberfield, Ben English and Rosanne Michie October 24, 2004 LLEYTON Hewitt has told friends of his heartbreak and shock when fiancee Kim Clijsters dumped him. Clijsters, 21, phoned Hewitt on Thursday night to end their five-year relationship without giving a reason. On Friday she posted a brief statement on her website announcing the split. But reports from Belgium say the injured star cancelled her wedding dress weeks ago. Last night a distraught Hewitt was believed to have fled overseas. "He’s angry, embarrassed, devastated, distraught – all of that stuff," .a friend of Hewitt’s said. "He’s been kicked in the guts and he’s been kicked in the guts internationally and embarrassingly. "He had a few warning signs but when it came it came as a huge shock. "There were some signs she might have cold feet about the wedding after the US Open but then he thought everything was OK," the friend said. Dress Designer Nicky Vankets, who was to make Clijsters’ wedding dress, said he had known for more than a week but was not allowed to tell anyone. Friends of Hewitt said the Aussie star had some inkling all was not well but were floored when Clijsters ended their engagement over the phone. Hewitt, 23, withdrew from the Madrid Masters tournament this week, citing unspecified personal reasons. He has been holidaying in Darwin this week with his friend Adelaide footballer Andrew McLeod. Early yesterday, Hewitt was relaxing with mates at Darwin’s Discovery nightclub. Hewitt partied in the VIP section of the club, a private bar overlooking the main dance floor, in the city’s main entertainment strip in Mitchell St. Hewitt was due back in Adelaide last night to attend a 36ers basketball match but he phoned coach Phil Smythe to say he couldn’t make it and had to get out of the country. Instead he is believed to have flown straight to Paris. Differences between the two mothers about the makeup of the wedding party and its location are rumoured to be behind the split. Clijsters is said to have been suffering stress in helping with wedding arrangements in two countries as well as coping with the anxiety of a wrist injury which has ruined her tennis year. One Adelaide friend said "there has been a lot of trouble over who was going to be in the wedding party". Another friend said Hewitt was "doing pretty well in the circumstances" and was slowly coming to the realisation it is better the split happened now rather after they were married. "He doesn’t know if there is anyone else involved but Lleyton certainly isn’t seeing anyone else," he said. "He doesn’t know if things got too much for her." Friends say the Hewitt family thinks a reconciliation unlikely because of the "cold" way Clijsters ended the relationship. "He (Lleyton) doesn’t know if a reconciliation is possible but he doesn’t hold out a lot of hope," a friend said. Lleyton’s grandfather Max Hewitt, who was speaking from his home, at Glengowrie in SA, was shocked after hearing the news. "We’ve only just found out, it’s a big surprise," he said. "We are trying to find out what happened, we have no idea what went wrong." Hewitt was due to fly from Darwin to Paris yesterday – a flight originally booked so he could meet up with Clijsters in her home town of Bree, 80km east of Brussels. Instead, Hewitt will spend the next week in France preparing for the Paris Masters next month. Meanwhile, Clijsters has been visiting night clubs and shops near her home in the past two weeks. Yesterday, her father Leo appeared in the driveway of the gated family home saying only that his daughter had no intention of speaking to the press. Speaking outside the family home, he said: "Its private – between Lleyton and Kim," he said, "She has not spoken to anybody in Belgium about it." However, Mr Clijsters revealed he had spoken to Hewitt on Friday afternoon, nearly 24 hours after his daughter announced the split. Clijsters has been seen driving her yellow Porche 4WD around the area, sometimes dropping into the village for a waffle with her sister, Elke. Tennis insiders said yesterday Kim Clijsters decision to end her relationship with Lleyton Hewitt may have been coming for months. Many had thought it strange when Clijsters did not take her customary position alongside Hewitt’s mum Cherilyn and dad Glynn at either Wimbledon or the US Open. Friends of Hewitt describe Clijsters as a lovely person but with a fondness for "control". "Now there’s a cocktail for you … when you throw in Cherilyn and Glynn. I think there were issues with them, although they always seemed to support her," one friend said. Hewitt’s Davis Cup teammate Todd Woodbridge says he was shocked to hear of the split. "I’m staggered to hear that news," he said yesterday. "It was one out of left field for me. I hadn’t foreseen anything like that happening. "It’s a shock. If there’s anything you’d say perhaps it would just be the distance that was between them at times. Although they managed to keep a really strong relationship together. "Kim was front row at the Davis Cup last year cheering like she was a full blown citizen here." The former lovers may not come face-to-face until the Australian Open in January but that will only occur if Clijsters recovers from her wrist injury. Tennis’ glamour couple were to be married in Adelaide in February with another celebration later at a Belgian chateau. Two wedding ceremonies had been planned to satisfy the wishes of parents Glynn and Cherilyn Hewitt and Clijsters’ parents Leo and Els. Hewitt proposed to Clijsters aboard a Sydney Harbour cruise last year, presenting her with an impressive diamond solitaire ring. The two former No. 1 tennis players have been together for almost five years. They met at the Australian Open in 2000 when Kim’s sister Elke asked her to get Hewitt’s autograph.
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… if a woman in canada sends you a plastic 5.00 camera instead of the 200.00 digital one you bid on and paid for, through paypal, paypal will not acccept a claim because you received some goods, hey they could send you a dog turd, i kid you not if you receive goods you do not have a claim..
That is absolutely correct, and at one time or another, it can happen to you as a buyer. Just be prepared to file a chargeback request with your CC company. The first paypal complaint is just window dressing, but necessary before you can proceed to the CC company. I did have a dispute once with a seller, now NARU’d, where the paypal chargeback request got his attention, even though he had previously ignored my emails, and he did refund me the money through paypal, although PP denied my claim. I never had to send him back the turd, but I would have liked to send it to PP offices.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – True, it’s not for me to decide who stays and who goes either. The whole point of raising fees is it promotes the seller to list responsibly. By this I mean they take the extra 30-seconds to research their merchandise and price it accordingly with fair S&H. Also, by researching they can determine what sells and what doesn’t. It doesn’t make sense to list items that have high competition if you can’t beat the competition. We sure as hell don’t need any more people listing cell phone batteries or other generic Chinese knockoffs. With some items, no matter how many one buys at what discount, how well they research or how little they charge for shipping, some items just wouldn’t be worth listing because the listing fee would be too high.
Exactly. This is a clear indication that this item isn’t suited for eBay. So, why list it in the first place and make eBay rich? Listing it isn’t going to magically make it go away and put money in your pocket, that’s why we have dumpsters. Beating the competition has many meanings. Some beat them with price. Others with service. If the listing fee is too high, everyone selling certain items wouldn’t be able to list them without losing money.
A good point, but when I buy something I’m looking to buy the item not buy the salesman. When I buy a new vehicle I shop around for the best deal, not how well the salesman whispers sweet nothings in my ear. Remember, I can take my car to any dealer for warranty service, so service isn’t something I need to consider when buying a car. It would make someone think harder about listing *joke* auctions were the seller has no intentions of selling an item and the buyer having no intention of paying for it. People still smoke cigarettes despite prices spiraling upwards. It doesn’t make sense to me as they know they are killing themselves, but they choose to do it. Raising fees won’t stop anyone from making whatever type of auction they want.
True, but you’re talking about an addiction not a choice. The only way to break the addiction is if the smoker makes the choice to stop smoking. The cigarette companies have an influence on their customers by hooking them on nicotine, were as eBay has no hold on their customers. I guess one could say there are people that are addicted to eBay, but this isn’t eBay’s fault. Rita
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Maybe Rita’s right. Raise the fees, eliminate 99% of the sellers, and only list Lamborginis and 150 ft yachts.
Sssshhh! Don’t tell anyone our little secret. One can only hope the fees will go up high enough to make it cost prohibitive for the junk peddles to list. Rita
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Maybe Rita’s right. Raise the fees, eliminate 99% of the sellers, and only list Lamborginis and 150 ft yachts.
While raising the fees will get rid of 99% of sellers, a large percentage of the buyers will go with them. That would be great for those selling Lamborghinis and yachts, but for those people who come to eBay looking for fishing hooks and leave with a Lambo, those sellers lost out. Those buyers will be on some other site buying because eBay isn’t effective for them.
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Maybe Rita’s right. Raise the fees, eliminate 99% of the sellers, and only list Lamborginis and 150 ft yachts. While raising the fees will get rid of 99% of sellers, a large percentage of the buyers will go with them. That would be great for those selling Lamborghinis and yachts, but for those people who come to eBay looking for fishing hooks and leave with a Lambo, those sellers lost out. Those buyers will be on some other site buying because eBay isn’t effective for them.
Those are the people you want to get rid of, the ones that are indecisive and problematic for the seller. Plus, they also frustrate fellow bidders with asinine bid amounts that they have no intentions of honoring. Case in point, why would anyone want to pay $3.00 plus 12.95 S&H for a pack of "Eagle Claw" fishing hooks they can pick up at their local Wal-Mart for $0.69? Stupid buyers are great for the seller if they pay, but these are normally problematic items were sellers have a higher NPB rate. I say weed em out and raise the fees. Or is it raising the fees to weed em out? The resulting thinning will leave more resources and server space for the sellers that use eBay for a business instead of a flea market or a landfill. Rita
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Those are the people you want to get rid of, the ones that are indecisive and problematic for the seller. Plus, they also frustrate fellow bidders with asinine bid amounts that they have no intentions of honoring. Case in point, why would anyone want to pay $3.00 plus 12.95 S&H for a pack of "Eagle Claw" fishing hooks they can pick up at their local Wal-Mart for $0.69? Stupid buyers are great for the seller if they pay, but these are normally problematic items were sellers have a higher NPB rate. I say weed em out and raise the fees. Or is it raising the fees to weed em out? The resulting thinning will leave more resources and server space for the sellers that use eBay for a business instead of a flea market or a landfill. Rita
It’s not for me to decide who stays and who goes … and if a person is willing to pay $15 for a set of hooks they could buy locally for 69 cents, that’s up to them. Have you ever paid $1 for something in a $1 store that you could’ve had in Wal Mart for 50 cents? I have, but only because I didn’t know I could get them for half the price elsewhere. Raising the fees won’t stop people from bidding asinine amounts they have no intention of paying, either. Case in point … if eBay doubled the listing fees, would it have stopped anyone from bidding $99 million on the wedding dress? All raising the fees would do is get rid of all the buyers who came to buy lower priced items. When they were gone, those who occasionally bought bigger ticket items would go with them to some other site that would amazingly pop up quickly to fill the void. That’s fine if that’s what you want. I think eBay is more worried about their own income than pleasing a few sellers by getting rid of most of the sellers.
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With some items, no matter how many one buys at what discount, how well they research or how little they charge for shipping, some items just wouldn’t be worth listing because the listing fee would be too high. Exactly. This is a clear indication that this item isn’t suited for eBay. So, why list it in the first place and make eBay rich? Listing it isn’t going to magically make it go away and put money in your pocket, that’s why we have dumpsters.
Just because an item is low priced doesn’t mean it does or does not belong on eBay. eBay calls itself the "worldwide garage sale". Raising the listing price would make it the "worldwide Macys" because the only items worth listing would be things one might find in that store. A lot of things on eBay belong in dumpsters, but one man’s trash is another’s treasure. About 2 months ago, me and my sisters cleaned my mother’s garage out. Of all the stuff we put out to the street for the trash, only about 25% made it into the trash. The rest was picked up by scavengers. I don’t care because it was trash to me/us. The trashmen don’t care because it was less for them to pick up. Beating the competition has many meanings. Some beat them with price. Others with service. If the listing fee is too high, everyone selling certain items wouldn’t be able to list them without losing money. A good point, but when I buy something I’m looking to buy the item not buy the salesman. When I buy a new vehicle I shop around for the best deal, not how well the salesman whispers sweet nothings in my ear. Remember, I can take my car to any dealer for warranty service, so service isn’t something I need to consider when buying a car.
Some people buy from people they like rather than people who have the absolute best price. With cars there are many variables. Those variables multiply when looking at different makes (Chevy vs. Ford, for instance). No 2 cars are identically priced (pretty much). Sometimes shopping for the best price on a car means you pay more for freight and setup (that’s what they call it in the motorcycle industry .. car dealers call it "destination and delivery" or something like that). While you can take your car to any dealer for service, if you take it to a local dealer where you didn’t buy your car, you may not get the best service possible (they may tell you that there are no openings until next week or they have to order parts that are in stock). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -It would make someone think harder about listing *joke* auctions were the seller has no intentions of selling an item and the buyer having no intention of paying for it. People still smoke cigarettes despite prices spiraling upwards. It doesn’t make sense to me as they know they are killing themselves, but they choose to do it. Raising fees won’t stop anyone from making whatever type of auction they want. True, but you’re talking about an addiction not a choice. The only way to break the addiction is if the smoker makes the choice to stop smoking. The cigarette companies have an influence on their customers by hooking them on nicotine, were as eBay has no hold on their customers. I guess one could say there are people that are addicted to eBay, but this isn’t eBay’s fault.
Whether it’s a choice or an addiction, the prices are still going up all the time and people continue to pay it. A person makes a choice to smoke or not. No one is born with a cigarette in their hand. Many people quit, too. Cigarette companies have no more influence on their customers than eBay does. People who smoke just use that as an excuse. Meanwhile they are killing themselves and everyone around them. One would think that when cigarettes get to a certain price, people will stop. I don’t see it happening, though. Some will continue no matter what it costs. With eBay, eventually they’ll price themselves out of the game (if they follow your suggestion). By raising prices, they get rid of some problems, but they create others, including lower stock prices.
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True, it’s not for me to decide who stays and who goes either. The whole point of raising fees is it promotes the seller to list responsibly. By this I mean they take the extra 30-seconds to research their merchandise and price it accordingly with fair S&H. Also, by researching they can determine what sells and what doesn’t. It doesn’t make sense to list items that have high competition if you can’t beat the competition. We sure as hell don’t need any more people listing cell phone batteries or other generic Chinese knockoffs.
With some items, no matter how many one buys at what discount, how well they research or how little they charge for shipping, some items just wouldn’t be worth listing because the listing fee would be too high. Beating the competition has many meanings. Some beat them with price. Others with service. If the listing fee is too high, everyone selling certain items wouldn’t be able to list them without losing money. It would make someone think harder about listing *joke* auctions were the seller has no intentions of selling an item and the buyer having no intention of paying for it.
People still smoke cigarettes despite prices spiraling upwards. It doesn’t make sense to me as they know they are killing themselves, but they choose to do it. Raising fees won’t stop anyone from making whatever type of auction they want.
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It’s not for me to decide who stays and who goes … and if a person is willing to pay $15 for a set of hooks they could buy locally for 69 cents, that’s up to them. Have you ever paid $1 for something in a $1 store that you could’ve had in Wal Mart for 50 cents? I have, but only because I didn’t know I could get them for half the price elsewhere.
True, it’s not for me to decide who stays and who goes either. The whole point of raising fees is it promotes the seller to list responsibly. By this I mean they take the extra 30-seconds to research their merchandise and price it accordingly with fair S&H. Also, by researching they can determine what sells and what doesn’t. It doesn’t make sense to list items that have high competition if you can’t beat the competition. We sure as hell don’t need any more people listing cell phone batteries or other generic Chinese knockoffs. Raising the fees won’t stop people from bidding asinine amounts they have no intention of paying, either. Case in point … if eBay doubled the listing fees, would it have stopped anyone from bidding $99 million on the wedding dress?
It would make someone think harder about listing *joke* auctions were the seller has no intentions of selling an item and the buyer having no intention of paying for it. All raising the fees would do is get rid of all the buyers who came to buy lower priced items. When they were gone, those who occasionally bought bigger ticket items would go with them to some other site that would amazingly pop up quickly to fill the void.
This, of course, would be the fault of the seller for not properly researching and listing their items. What chases others and me away from buying low dollar items on eBay is the higher price combined with S&H gouging. A widget that I was interested in is going for $24-$35 plus $4-$12 S&H on eBay. The same item is going for $17 plus tax at the mall. If I didn’t want to go to the mall I could order it on-line for $17 + $4 S&H. It’s true some buyers are happy paying exorbitant fees for the convenience of not wasting time, but these buyer’s aren’t as common as an eBay seller needs to keep a respectable sell-thru rate. That’s fine if that’s what you want. I think eBay is more worried about their own income than pleasing a few sellers by getting rid of most of the sellers.
That’s a valid point, but it doesn’t need to be the case since most of the sellers in question are on a mission to self-destruct and their demise is a product of their own stupidity. Sellers that don’t seek a respectable profit margin and find the need to gouge on S&H are the one’s that I’m making reference to. These are the one’s that ruin the eBay experience for everyone. That said, eBay isn’t going to pass up a golden opportunity to make a buck on their spiraling decline, which I don’t fault them for. Rita
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choke out these words: Be advised, i have been selling on ebay for 3 years with two id’s, the following should be noted with regard to paypal.
<same crap every time he posts <pl0nk
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I guess 99% of the sellers on eBay just don’t get it. Looking at the completed listings, it doesn’t look like more than 1 out of 100 listings are even making 3:1. Looks like less than half are making more than a 50% mark up. On a serious note… just curious how you come to that observation? I ask because… how do you know what someone’s profit is unless you know what their cost is?
Just estimating, based on what I would normally expect to find in close out deals. I’ve been buying and selling CDs, Videos, Video Games, Comics, Sports Cards, etc. since 1987 and believe I have a good feel for what dealers and distributors are paying for closeouts and new releases. Everyone runs into some real gems for pennies on the dollar, but they few and far between. Common sense dictates if these kind of deals were an every day occurence they would not be "gems" at all but just average prices for closeouts.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -bject: Re: It’s impossible to make money on ebay! Their fees are so high that you will lose 99% of your money to ebay. eBay fees are the most outstanding bargain anytime ever. If you even worry about them, you do not have the faintest clue how to properly run a business. See http://www.tinaja.com/glib/ebaysell.pdf — Many thanks, Don Lancaster
Right on Don Some of these folks have never had the "advantage?" of paying rent, utilities, advertising, help etc etc on a storefront and hoping a few people will at least come in - they just want to bitch Ebay reaches millions and the overhead cost are little bitty
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Always seek out a 30:1 or higher sell/buy ratio on eBay.
I notice you have changed from get 30 to 1 to seek out 30 to 1 Hell I seek out 100 to 1 but seeking and getting are 2 different animals
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30:1 has always worked for me. I used to pick up debris from UFOs that crashed in the desert. Now everyone is doing it. So I switched to making ash trays from mud. (Avoid using bottled water to moisten the mud. It drives your costs up). I guess 99% of the sellers on eBay just don’t get it. Looking at the completed listings, it doesn’t look like more than 1 out of 100 listings are even making 3:1. Looks like less than half are making more than a 50% mark up. Maybe Rita’s right. Raise the fees, eliminate 99% of the sellers, and only list Lamborginis and 150 ft yachts.
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Be advised, i have been selling on ebay for 3 years with two id’s, the following should be noted with regard to paypal. Paypal is now registered inthe UK and is subsequently liable to comply with UK law. They are currently undergoing a policy change, they are trying to con all buyers to fund their purchases from their bank accounts or paypal balance, the reason, if you fund a paypal purchase from your credit card, and the sale falls through you can ask your card company to negate the transaction and refund the amount, they will generally do this if you stick to the card companies guide lines, the result is that paypal have to recover the amount from the dodgy seller. Paypal (ebay) do not like this, they want you to take all the risks and they take all the charges. Paypal protection, is a joke, you can only make two claims a year, irrespective of value, example you make two purchases, which do not materialise using paypal one for 20.00 and one for 15.00. you claim for loss of funds,, paypal may or may not refund you, but thats your lot for 1 year from the date of the second claim. The claim is currently limited to 250.00 per claim two claims maximum in 1 year. However, say you buy a digital camera for 200.00, and the seller sends you a 5.00 disposable camera, you are not covered because you received some goods, i know this sounds silly but its true. Paypal are currently contacting paypal users requesting additional security requirements, claiming its to comply with European anti money laundering regulations, they ask you to set up a direct debit in their favour, so they can send some pennies to your bank account, you must then verify that you received it purportedly to satisfy them that your bank account is yours, It is however a con, on the page after you submit the direct debit, it says that from now on your bank account will be the default source of funding for all your ebay purchases, thereby negating your opportunity to make a claim off your card company, if a woman in canada sends you a plastic 5.00 camera instead of the 200.00 digital one you bid on and paid for, through paypal, paypal will not acccept a claim because you received some goods, hey they could send you a dog turd, i kid you not if you receive goods you do not have a claim.. I take this action by paypal (ebay its the same company) as a personal insult to the intelligence of ebay buyers. It is a complete con, just like when you report a seller for sellig counterfeit goods, and ebay takes so long too look at your complaint that all the sales are completed before any action is taken, they regularly cancel a few token sales to make it look like they are acting to protect buyers,they are not, every month thousands of counterfeit items, ilegal copies of software, thousnds of dodgy money making scams, etc etc go full term, so ebay and paypal can have their fees.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am thinking of just offering paypal only for payment of my auctions. Anyone else do this ? Any thought’s ? I have listed some today with just paypal only just to see the response. — — Niaz Khan ‘..getting old & still playing video games..’
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Their fees are so high that you will lose 99% of your money to ebay. And then the IRS comes and steals the rest from you.
Trolls cannot affordably pay both the IRS and eBay. IRS rate for trolls is 92%, and eBay charges trolls and extra 76%. Always seek out a 30:1 hu-man:troll ratio when posting on Usenet.
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Their fees are so high that you will lose 99% of your money to ebay. And then the IRS comes and steals the rest from you.
Ah, so maybe your "Buy High, Sell Low" strategy needs refinement.
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Their fees are so high that you will lose 99% of your money to ebay. And then the IRS comes and steals the rest from you. Ah, so maybe your "Buy High, Sell Low" strategy needs refinement.
Always seek out a 30:1 or higher sell/buy ratio on eBay. See the tutorials at http://www.tinaja.com/auct01.asp — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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Their fees are so high that you will lose 99% of your money to ebay.
eBay fees are the most outstanding bargain anytime ever. If you even worry about them, you do not have the faintest clue how to properly run a business. See http://www.tinaja.com/glib/ebaysell.pdf — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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Their fees are so high that you will lose 99% of your money to ebay. And then the IRS comes and steals the rest from you.
Such crystal clear logic!! Thank you for showing us the light, Brian Raaaaab. ef
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Their fees are so high that you will lose 99% of your money to ebay. And then the IRS comes and steals the rest from you.
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Actually, I’m happy just to get bids so I’m not loosing money in listing fees. My custom built items are priced so that I make a little profit after listing, sold item, and Paypal fees. The problem is getting them to sell. It seems that every type of product I sell is already saturated so that my only avenue left to move product is to make just pennies in profit. Oh well, its for fun anyway. But it is loosing its appeal. I’ll keep trying to come up with something unique and someday perhaps I will achieve payola! : ) John
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Their fees are so high that you will lose 99% of your money to ebay. And then the IRS comes and steals the rest from you.
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17 REALLY AWFUL PUNS 1. Two antennas meet on a roof, fall in love and get married. The ceremony wasn’t much, but the reception was excellent. 2. Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. One says, "I’ve lost my electron," The other says, "Are you sure?" The first replies, "Yes, I’m positive…" 3. A jumper cable walks into a bar. The bartender says, "I’ll serve you, but don’t start anything." 4. Two peanuts walk into a bar, and one was a salted. 5. A sandwich walks into a bar. The bartender says, "Sorry we don’t serve food in here." 6. A dyslexic man walks into a bra. 7. A man walks into a bar with a slab of asphalt under his arm and says: "A beer please, and one for the road." 8. Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?" 9. "Doc, I can’t stop singing ‘The Green, Green Grass of Home. That sounds like Tom Jones Syndrome," "Is it common?" Doc says "It’s Not Unusual." 10. Two cows standing next to each other in a field, Daisy says to Dolly, "I was artificially inseminated this morning," "I don’t believe you," said Dolly. "It’s true, no bull!" exclaimed Daisy. 11. An invisible man marries an invisible woman. The kids were nothing to look at either. 12. A man takes his Rottweiler to the vet and says, "My dog’s cross-eyed, is there anything you can do for him?" "Well," says the vet, "let’s have a look at him." So he picks the dog up and examines his eyes, then checks his teeth. Finally, he says, "I’m going to have to put him down." "What? Because he’s cross-eyed?" "No, because he’s really heavy." 13. I went to buy some camouflage trousers the other day but I couldn’t find any. 14. I went to the butcher’s the other day and I bet him 50 bucks that he couldn’t reach the meat off the top shelf. He said, "No, the steaks are too high." 15 . I went to a seafood disco last week… and pulled a mussel. 16 . What do you call a fish with no eyes? A fsh. 17 . Two termites walk into a bar. One asks, "Is the bar tender here?" An old fellow came into the hospital truly on death’s door due to an infected gallbladder. The surgeon who removed the gallbladder was adamant that his patients be up and walking in the hall the day after surgery, to help prevent blood clots forming in the leg veins. The nurses walked the patient in the hall as ordered, and after the third day the nurse told how he complained bitterly each time they did. The surgeon told them to keep walking him. After a week, the patient was ready to go. His family came to pick him up and thanked the surgeon profusely for what he had done for their father. The surgeon was pleased and appreciated the thanks, but told them that it was really a simple operation and we had been lucky to get him in time. "But doctor, you don’t understand," they said, "Dad hasn’t walked in over a year!" We were celebrating the 100th anniversary of our church, and several former pastors and the bishop were in attendance. At one point, our minister had the children gather at the altar for a talk about the importance of the day. He began by asking, "Does anyone know what the bishop does?" There was silence. Finally, one little boy answered gravely, "He’s the one you can move diagonally." A fresh-faced lad on the eve of his wedding night goes to his mother with the following question. "Mom, why are wedding dresses white?" The mother looks at her son and replies, "Son, this shows the town that your bride is pure." The son thanks his mom and goes off to double-check this with his father. "Dad why are wedding dresses white?" The father looks at his son in surprise and says, "Son, all household appliances come in white" A parish priest was being honored at a dinner on the 25th anniversary of his arrival in that parish. A leading local politician, who was a member of the congregation, was chosen to make the presentation and give a little speech at the dinner, but he was delayed in traffic. Sooo…..the priest decided to say his own few words while they waited. "You will understand," he said, "the seal of the confessional, can never be broken. However, I got my first impressions of this parish from the first confession I heard here. I can only hint vaguely about this, but when I came here 25 years ago, I thought I had been assigned to a terrible place. The very first chap who entered my confessional told me how he had stolen a television set and, when stopped by the police, had almost murdered the officer. Further, he told me he had embezzled money from his place of business and had an affair with his boss’s wife. I was appalled. But as the days went on I knew that my people were not all like that, and I had, indeed come to, a fine parish full of understanding and loving people." Just as the priest finished his talk, the politician arrived full of apologies for being late. He immediately began to make the presentation and give his talk. "I’ll never forget the first day our parish priest arrived in this parish," said the politician. "In fact, I had the honor of being the first one to go to him in confession." The moral of this story is to never be late! A distraught senior citizen phoned her doctor’s office. "Is it true," she wanted to know, "that the medication you prescribed has to be taken for the rest of my life?" "Yes, I’m afraid so," the doctor told her. There was a moment of silence before the senior lady replied, "I’m wondering, then, just how serious is my condition. This prescription is marked ‘NO REFILLS’." A customer at Green’s Gourmet Grocery marveled at the proprietor’s quick wit and intelligence. "Tell me, Green, what makes you so smart?" "I wouldn’t share my secret with just anyone," Green replies, lowering his voice so the other shoppers won’t hear. "But since you’re a good and faithful customer, I’ll let you in on it. Fish heads. You eat enough of them, you’ll be positively brilliant." "You sell them here?" the customer asks. "Only $4 apiece," says Green. The customer buys three. A week later, he’s back in the store complaining that the fish heads were disgusting and he isn’t any smarter. "You didn’t eat enough, " says Green. The customer goes home with 20 more fish heads. Two weeks later, he’s back and this time he’s really angry. "Hey, Green," he says, "You’re selling me fish heads for $4 a piece when I can buy the whole fish for $2. You’re ripping me off!" "You see?" says Green. "You’re smarter already." A guy arrives at the pearly gates, waiting to be admitted. St. Peter is reading through the Big Book to see if the guy’s name is written in it. After several minutes, St. Peter closes the book, furrows his brow, and says, "I’m sorry, I don’t see your name written in the Book." "How current is your copy?" he asks. "I get a download every ten minutes." St. Peter replies, "Why do you ask?" "I’m embarrassed to admit it, but I was always the stubborn type. It was not until my death was imminent that I cried out to God, so my name probably hasn’t arrived to your copy yet." "I’m glad to hear that, "Pete says, "but while we’re waiting for the update to come through, can you tell me about a really good deed that you did in your life?" The guys thinks for a moment and says, "Hmmm, well there was this one time when I was driving down a road and I saw a group of biker gang members harassing this poor girl. I slowed down, and sure enough, there they were, about 20 of them harassing this poor woman. Infuriated, I got out my car, grabbed a tire iron out of my trunk, and walked up to the leader of the gang. He was a huge guy; 6-foot-4, 260 pounds, with a studded leather jacket and a chain running from his nose to his ears. As I walked up to the leader, the bikers formed a circle around me and told me to get lost or I’d be next." "So I ripped the leader’s chain out of his face and smashed him over the head with the tire iron. Then I turned around and yelled to the rest of them, ‘Leave this poor innocent girl alone! You’re all a bunch of SICK, deranged animals! Go home before I really teach you a lesson in PAIN!’" St. Peter, duly impressed, says "Wow! When did this happen" "About three minutes ago." Fans of ’60’s music, my 14-year-old daughter and her best friend got front-row tickets to a Peter, Paul, and Mary concert. When they returned home, my daughter said, "During the show, we looked back an saw hundreds of little lights swaying to the music. At first we thought people were holding up cigarette lighters. Then we realized that the lights were the reflections off all the eyeglasses and bald heads in the audience. More than anything, Bob wanted to be a cowpoke. Taking pity on him, a rancher decided to hire the lad and give him a chance. "This," he said, showing him a rope, "is a lariat. We use it to catch cows." "I see," said Bob, trying to seem knowledgeable as he examined the lariat. "And what do you use for bait?" That’s all for now, as I’ve said many times, I don’t write them, I just pass them along in hopes of giving someone a smile. Sorry Ronnie, I couldn’t find any Little Johnny jokes that I felt I could post in this forum this time around, but I will keep my eyes and ears open for some. Bear
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 4:10 PM RESENDING, PUSHED WRONG BUTTON FIRST TIME. CORVUS —– Original Message —– Newsgroups: alt.support.headaches.migraine Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 9:46 AM Great, Bear. Shades of Henny Youngman. [.....] 2. Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. One says, "I’ve lost my electron," The other says, "Are you sure?" The first replies, "Yes, I’m positive…" Reminds me of that oldie: Rene Descartes: Sits down at the bar, Bartender: "The usual?" Descartes: " I think not." and vanishes. 16 . What do you call a fish with no eyes? A fsh. That’s my favorite! BobB —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–
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following fruit: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -17 REALLY AWFUL PUNS 1. Two antennas meet on a roof, fall in love and get married. The ceremony wasn’t much, but the reception was excellent. 2. Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. One says, "I’ve lost my electron," The other says, "Are you sure?" The first replies, "Yes, I’m positive…" 3. A jumper cable walks into a bar. The bartender says, "I’ll serve you, but don’t start anything." 4. Two peanuts walk into a bar, and one was a salted. 5. A sandwich walks into a bar. The bartender says, "Sorry we don’t serve food in here." 6. A dyslexic man walks into a bra. 7. A man walks into a bar with a slab of asphalt under his arm and says: "A beer please, and one for the road." 8. Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?" 9. "Doc, I can’t stop singing ‘The Green, Green Grass of Home. That sounds like Tom Jones Syndrome," "Is it common?" Doc says "It’s Not Unusual." 10. Two cows standing next to each other in a field, Daisy says to Dolly, "I was artificially inseminated this morning," "I don’t believe you," said Dolly. "It’s true, no bull!" exclaimed Daisy. 11. An invisible man marries an invisible woman. The kids were nothing to look at either. 12. A man takes his Rottweiler to the vet and says, "My dog’s cross-eyed, is there anything you can do for him?" "Well," says the vet, "let’s have a look at him." So he picks the dog up and examines his eyes, then checks his teeth. Finally, he says, "I’m going to have to put him down." "What? Because he’s cross-eyed?" "No, because he’s really heavy." 13. I went to buy some camouflage trousers the other day but I couldn’t find any. 14. I went to the butcher’s the other day and I bet him 50 bucks that he couldn’t reach the meat off the top shelf. He said, "No, the steaks are too high." 15 . I went to a seafood disco last week… and pulled a mussel. 16 . What do you call a fish with no eyes? A fsh. 17 . Two termites walk into a bar. One asks, "Is the bar tender here?"
18. Two thieves stole a calendar . . . they each got 6 months 19. The short fortuneteller who escaped from prison was a small medium at large. 20. So I said to this train driver "I want to go to Paris". He said "Eurostar?". I said "I’ve been on telly but I’m no Dean Martin". 21. So I said to the Gym instructor "Can you teach me to do the splits?". He said "How flexible are you?". I said "I can’t make Tuesdays". 22. Police arrested two kids yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. 23. I was shopping around for a car, and one salesman says, "You look like the kind of guy who’d want the AM/FM radio with removable face plate, the trunk-mounted Cd player, with 8 speakers and remote contol." I hate being stereotyped. (David Reihmer) 24. How is holy water made? You take regular water, and you boil the hell out of it. Jan Hyde (VB MVP) — I went to the butchers the other day and I bet him 50 quid that he couldn’t reach the meat off the top shelf. He said, "No, the steaks are too high." [Abolish the TV License - http://www.tvlicensing.biz/]
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some good ones there! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – following fruit: 17 REALLY AWFUL PUNS 1. Two antennas meet on a roof, fall in love and get married. The ceremony wasn’t much, but the reception was excellent. 2. Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. One says, "I’ve lost my electron," The other says, "Are you sure?" The first replies, "Yes, I’m positive…" 3. A jumper cable walks into a bar. The bartender says, "I’ll serve you, but don’t start anything." 4. Two peanuts walk into a bar, and one was a salted. 5. A sandwich walks into a bar. The bartender says, "Sorry we don’t serve food in here." 6. A dyslexic man walks into a bra. 7. A man walks into a bar with a slab of asphalt under his arm and says: "A beer please, and one for the road." 8. Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?" 9. "Doc, I can’t stop singing ‘The Green, Green Grass of Home. That sounds like Tom Jones Syndrome," "Is it common?" Doc says "It’s Not Unusual." 10. Two cows standing next to each other in a field, Daisy says to Dolly, "I was artificially inseminated this morning," "I don’t believe you," said Dolly. "It’s true, no bull!" exclaimed Daisy. 11. An invisible man marries an invisible woman. The kids were nothing to look at either. 12. A man takes his Rottweiler to the vet and says, "My dog’s cross-eyed, is there anything you can do for him?" "Well," says the vet, "let’s have a look at him." So he picks the dog up and examines his eyes, then checks his teeth. Finally, he says, "I’m going to have to put him down." "What? Because he’s cross-eyed?" "No, because he’s really heavy." 13. I went to buy some camouflage trousers the other day but I couldn’t find any. 14. I went to the butcher’s the other day and I bet him 50 bucks that he couldn’t reach the meat off the top shelf. He said, "No, the steaks are too high." 15 . I went to a seafood disco last week… and pulled a mussel. 16 . What do you call a fish with no eyes? A fsh. 17 . Two termites walk into a bar. One asks, "Is the bar tender here?" 18. Two thieves stole a calendar . . . they each got 6 months 19. The short fortuneteller who escaped from prison was a small medium at large. 20. So I said to this train driver "I want to go to Paris". He said "Eurostar?". I said "I’ve been on telly but I’m no Dean Martin". 21. So I said to the Gym instructor "Can you teach me to do the splits?". He said "How flexible are you?". I said "I can’t make Tuesdays". 22. Police arrested two kids yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. 23. I was shopping around for a car, and one salesman says, "You look like the kind of guy who’d want the AM/FM radio with removable face plate, the trunk-mounted Cd player, with 8 speakers and remote contol." I hate being stereotyped. (David Reihmer) 24. How is holy water made? You take regular water, and you boil the hell out of it. Jan Hyde (VB MVP)
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Welcome – People’s Temple Choir Will You? – People’s Temple Choir
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The Ocean Is The Ultimate Solution – Frank Zappa
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Up & Down – Eddy Huntington
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Set Them Free – People’s Temple Choir Because Of Him – People’s Temple Choir Simple Song Of Freedom – People’s Temple Choir Black Baby – People’s Temple Choir
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Love Machine – Claudja Barry Sweet Talkin’ Lover – Claudja Barry (Boogie Woogie) Dancing Shoes – Claudja Barry It’s So Nice – Claudja Barry Stop He’s A Lover – Claudja Barry Radio Action – Claudja Barry Love Control – Claudja Barry Sweet Inspiration – Claudja Barry
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How To Pick Up Girls – Bobby O All People Are The Same – Bobby O These Lies – Bobby O Givin’ Up – Bobby O
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I Cry For You – Bobby O Reputation – Bobby O German Girl – Bobby O I Pretend – Bobby O
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Confusion – Bobby O Mixed Up World – Bobby O
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>Mixed Up World – Bobby O
"Well, I guess it’s just another case of living fast and in disgrace."
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>Confusion – Bobby O
"It’s just another illusion."
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"Roman S." <r…@att.net> wrote in message
news:%ZWNc.145844$OB3.121848@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > >Confusion – Bobby O > "It’s just another illusion."
Pedro was the illusion Don Quixote was the quest Horse is horse
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Doo wa wa wrote: >> >Confusion – Bobby O >> "It’s just another illusion." >Pedro was the illusion >Don Quixote was the quest >Horse is horse
"Don’t you know that there are no solutions. It’s just mixed up, mixed up confusion. Confusion. Confusion. It’s just an illusion. O O O O."
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>>Mixed Up World – Bobby O >"Well, I guess it’s just another case of living fast and in disgrace."
"Go to the bar, have another drink. Try real hard to forget to think." "Crazy thoughts in everyone’s mind. We’re living fast and living to die."
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Live Fast, Die Fast – GG Allin Look Fast (To Be Fast) – Anarchy 6
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Roman S. wrote: > Art Monk wrote: >>Good stuff, Roman. I’m a bit of a Talking Heads fan. _Crosseyed and >>Painless_ is their masterpiece IMO. What do you think? > Yes. Very good. I also like "Once In A Lifetime" used in the movie Down > And Out In Beverly Hills. The first time I heard Talking Heads was when I > watched their "Burning Down The House" video and it’s still one of my > favorite songs.
Wanna know something odd? My personal favourite Talking Heads tune is _Stay Up Late_. It’s silly and foolish, but lots of fun to listen to. Regards, Art Monk
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letting the days go by is that once in a lifetime? anyway , that is my favorite by them altho i like a whole lot of their songs
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Beyond B1ue wrote: > letting the days go by > is that once in a lifetime? > anyway , that is my favorite by them altho i like a whole lot of their songs
Ya, that’s _Once in a Lifetime_. _Crosseyed and Painless_ goes: Lost my Shape/Trying to Act Casual/Can’t stop/I might end up in the hospital/Changing my shape/I feel like an accident/They’re back/To explain their experience _Stay Up Late_ goes: Mommy has a little baby/There he is, fast asleep/He’s just a little plaything/Why not pick him up?/Baby, baby, please let me hold you/I wanna make him stay up all night/Sister, sister, he’s just a baby/Don’t you wanna make him stay up all night Like I said, silly but fun. Regards, Art Monk
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>Stay Up Late_ goes: Mommy has a little baby/There he is, fast >asleep/He’s just a little plaything/Why not pick him up?/Baby, baby, >please let me hold you/I wanna make him stay up all night/Sister, >sister, he’s just a baby/Don’t you wanna make him stay up all night
i know that, too so many good ones take me to the water burning down the house i dont know the name maybe and she was about the girl overcoming gravity psycho killer life in wartime is great . i love it
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Beyond B1ue wrote: >>Stay Up Late_ goes: Mommy has a little baby/There he is, fast >>asleep/He’s just a little plaything/Why not pick him up?/Baby, baby, >>please let me hold you/I wanna make him stay up all night/Sister, >>sister, he’s just a baby/Don’t you wanna make him stay up all night > i know that, too > so many good ones > take me to the water > burning down the house > i dont know the name maybe and she was > about the girl overcoming gravity
The title of that one is _And She Was_. I have _Sand in the Vaseline_, their two-CD best-of collection, and all of the above are on it, along with a few eccentric, crappy tunes. The liner notes include a killer quotation from Tina Weymouth, the Heads’ bassist, who claims she never truly learned to play bass: "I love you all, named and unnamed. Thanks for having me when you could have had someone a little taller." > psycho killer
Sadly, the only version of _Psycho Killer_ on my CD is a crappy live version. > life in wartime is great . i love it
Me too. I’ll start a separate thread on favourite CDs. Regards, Art Monk
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Alive – Pearl Jam So Alive – Love And Rockets Live A Little Bit – Claudja Barry When Life Was Just A Game – Claudja Barry Life – Flipper Live Is Life – Opus Opus Dei – Laibach Still Life – Alternative TV Life – Alternative TV Life After Life – Alternative TV
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Wild Wild Life – Talking Heads Life During Wartime – Talking Heads The Facts Of Life – Talking Heads
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Living In Oblivion – Anything Box
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i listened to today sweet jane- lou reed heroin – lou reed devils haircut – beck hotwax – beck lord only knows -beck the new pollution – beck derelict – beck novacaine – beck jack ass beck where its at – beck all of storm in heaven – verve
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Good stuff, Roman. I’m a bit of a Talking Heads fan. _Crosseyed and Painless_ is their masterpiece IMO. What do you think? Regards, Art Monk – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Roman S. wrote: > Wild Wild Life – Talking Heads > Life During Wartime – Talking Heads > The Facts Of Life – Talking Heads
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> I’m a bit of a Talking Heads fan.
me too!!
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Beyond B1ue wrote: >devils haircut – beck >hotwax – beck >lord only knows -beck >the new pollution – beck >derelict – beck >novacaine – beck >jack ass beck >where its at – beck
I like Beck. He wears a HUSTLER t-shirt.
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Art Monk wrote: >Good stuff, Roman. I’m a bit of a Talking Heads fan. _Crosseyed and >Painless_ is their masterpiece IMO. What do you think?
Yes. Very good. I also like "Once In A Lifetime" used in the movie Down And Out In Beverly Hills. The first time I heard Talking Heads was when I watched their "Burning Down The House" video and it’s still one of my favorite songs.
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>I like Beck. He wears a HUSTLER t-shirt.
yee haw i love him too
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Baby You Can Have My Lovin’ Anytime – Paul Parker Love’s On The Line – Paul Parker Without Your Love – Paul Parker One Look Was Enough – Paul Parker
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Golden Brown – The Stranglers #Never a frown with golden brown#
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"Roman S." <r…@att.net> wrote in message
news:fh9lc.11450$Ut1.347921@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > Golden Brown – The Stranglers > #Never a frown with golden brown#
Also by the Stranglers "Always, always, always the sun!" (I am having my English and grammar checked by a friend before posting messages since a rather unkind message here about my spelling. It is very hard communicating with Western Civilization when English is not my Native tongue. Tell me, is it normal to criticize for spelling and grammar on a support group for schizophrenia?)
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>It is very >hard communicating with Western Civilization when English is not my Native >tongue. Tell me, is it normal to criticize for spelling and grammar on a >support group for schizophrenia?)
Don’t worry, Americans and Englishmen often can’t speak any better. Beware the grammar Nazis, they will correct your German too. M.
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>Tell me, is it normal to criticize for spelling and grammar on a >support group for schizophrenia?)
just newsgroups in general some people get all bent out of shape about spelling and grammar. i am not one of those people
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"Unrequited 123" <unrequited…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040502143455.26979.00000712@mb-m12.aol.com… > >It is very > >hard communicating with Western Civilization when English is not my Native > >tongue. Tell me, is it normal to criticize for spelling and grammar on a > >support group for schizophrenia?) > Don’t worry, Americans and Englishmen often can’t speak any better. > Beware the grammar Nazis, they will correct your German too. > M.
You shouldn’t really refer to us as Nazis either! We will take it with Grace though – sorry we "let" you win the war! Better you think us Nazis than you find out the TRUTH eh "comrades"!!! :) He he he is that what the so called Father Christmas says or was that ho ho ho!!! How about "Zey are cummink to take me away HA HA!!!!" ;) ::::::::::::::::::) Many "Germans" with one smile!!!!! ))))))))))))) One American with many smiles!!!!! ;) he he!
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I am a foreigner and I don’t even have a green card for the USA. But on the internet I am free and there are no borders. Who cares about spelling and grammar? Just get your message accross !!! "GypzyB1ue" <gypzyb…@aol.com> schreef in bericht news:20040502144307.08632.00000593@mb-m11.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Tell me, is it normal to criticize for spelling and grammar on a > >support group for schizophrenia?) > just newsgroups in general some people get all bent out of shape about spelling > and grammar. > i am not one of those people
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BAD SPELURS OF THE WIRLD! UNTIE!!! We STIL HAVE TYME!!!
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>BAD SPELURS OF THE WIRLD! UNTIE!!! >We STIL HAVE TYME!!!
AWL YUR BASS AR BEELONG TOO UZ! M.
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>But on the internet I am free and there are >no borders. >Who cares about spelling and grammar?
http://www.somethingawful.com/jeffk/
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Demystification – Zounds Fear – Zounds
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:30:03 GMT, "Roman S." <r…@att.net> wrote: >Demystification – Zounds >Fear – Zounds
Die When You Die – GG Allin
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"Coconut" <pegboy…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:09ues0d80m1hdlar6h7h475mp1n2gqfgff@4ax.com > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:30:03 GMT, "Roman S." <r…@att.net> wrote: >> Demystification – Zounds >> Fear – Zounds > Die When You Die – GG Allin
movie: "Dead Pool" (1988)
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> movie: "Dead Pool" (1988)
i like Dirty Harry movies. i watched Magnum Force on VHS just a few days ago. i’ve only seen the Dead Pool a couple of times. michael
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gravity wrote: >i like Dirty Harry movies. i watched Magnum Force on VHS just a few days >ago. i’ve only seen the Dead Pool a couple of times.
I like Dirty Harry movies, Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns, and Charles Bronson movies (especially Death Wish 2, Death Wish 3, Hard Times, and 10 To Midnight).
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Shake The Disease – Depeche Mode Photographic – Depeche Mode
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Roman S. wrote: > Shake The Disease – Depeche Mode > Photographic – Depeche Mode
i like Depeche Mode. i have Violator or whatever the one is with the rose and black background on cover. i love a couple of the songs, although i don’t remember names. i have 170 CDs, LPs and tapes, so i can’t remember them all. michael
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gravity wrote: >i like Depeche Mode. i have Violator or whatever the one is with the >rose and black background on cover.
That’s definitely Violator (1990) and is considered their best album and played most often on mainstream radio with hits like Personal Jesus, World In My Eyes, Policy Of Truth, Enjoy The Silence. I have all their early CDs from Speak & Spell to Violator including Singles 81>85. I haven’t heard any post-Violator DM so I can’t evaluate their recent sound. I was listening to DM all day yesterday, New Order the day before (everything from Movement to Technique) and today will be Tears For Fears. Next: Yazoo, Rough Trade, Visage, Blancmange, The Cure, King, Missing Persons, Motels, China Crisis…
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>Next: Yazoo, Rough Trade, >Visage, Blancmange, The Cure, King, Missing Persons, Motels, China
Crisis… Shriekback, Soft Cell, Psychedelic Furs, Squeeze, Boomtown Rats, Anything Box, Hi-NRG Classics (V/A)…
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>Shriekback
I’m listening to "Oil And Gold" right now. Some of the best music I’ve ever heard. Every track on the CD is great! >Hi-NRG Classics (V/A)…
Contains Donna Summer’s "I Feel Love" (Patrick Cowley Megamix)!
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>Donna Summer’s "I Feel Love" (Patrick Cowley Megamix)!
Over 15 minutes long!
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>>Shriekback >I’m listening to "Oil And Gold" right now. Some of the best music I’ve ever >heard. Every track on the CD is great!
"This Big Hush" and "Coelocanth" are on the Manhunter soundtrack.
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>>Next: Yazoo, Rough Trade, >>Visage, Blancmange, The Cure, King, Missing Persons, Motels, China >Crisis… >Shriekback, Soft Cell, Psychedelic Furs, Squeeze, Boomtown Rats, Anything >Box, Hi-NRG Classics (V/A)…
Toto Coelo, Iron Butterfly, Klaus Schulze…
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Rise – NON Rise – Public Image Ltd.
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Rise Above – Black Flag Rise Below – NON
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"Roman S." <r…@att.net> wrote in message
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Rise up like the sun – Albion Band — sm
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Sweet Dynamite – Claudja Barry Why Must A Girl Like Me – Claudja Barry Dance, Dance, Dance – Claudja Barry
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The Clouds Are Full Of Wine (Not Whiskey Or Rye) – Captain Beefheart
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"Roman S." <r…@att.net> wrote in message
news:yY5Lc.288515$Gx4.153752@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… | Sweet Dynamite – Claudja Barry | Why Must A Girl Like Me – Claudja Barry | Dance, Dance, Dance – Claudja Barry | | "Not Another Teen Movie"
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Britney Threatens To Sue NY Post Jul 20, 2004 7:21 am US/Pacific NEW YORK (CBS) Pop star Britney Spears is threatening to sue the New York Post if the tabloid newspaper fails to retract a story about the singer boozing it up in public. Last week, the paper splashed a photo of Spears drinking from a miniature bottle with the headline "Britney hits the bottle." A story inside said the beverage appeared to be whiskey. But Spears’ attorney said the singer was drinking ginseng, a non-alcoholic herbal tonic. The clerk at a store in Venice, Calif., where Spears shopped is backing her story. He says Britney bought a bottle of ginseng and a can of Red Bull, an energy booster. Both are non-alcoholic beverages. USA Today reports that Spears’ attorney intends to file a lawsuit against the Post and the story’s writer "unless the paper immediately issues an appropriate retraction, apology and financial settlement." Post editor Col Allan said the newspaper decided to run the picture "after being assured by the Bauer-Griffin photo agency that Ms. Spears was consuming a mini-bottle of Glenlivet whiskey," according to USA Today. Earlier this month, the Post was embarrassed by a page-one story that said John Kerry had chosen Missouri Congressman Dick Gephart as his running mate. Subsequently, the New York Times reported that Post owner Rupert Murdoch was the source for the erroneous story. The Post has denied Murdoch was the source. In other news of the pop star: Spears has found a wedding dress. Her mom’s keeping mum on the details but says it’s "the most beautiful dress ever." Lynne Spears says the two have been very busy making wedding plans. But so far, no wedding date has been announced. For $259, you can spend the night in Britney Spears’ bedroom. Well, sort of. The singer’s mom has designed a room in Boston’s Onyx Hotel to resemble Spears’ bedroom at home in Kentwood, Louisiana. The mini-bar is stocked with Spears’ favorite snacks as well as her CD’s and DVD’s. A Canadian radio station is giving a forum to fans worried about Spears. The station in Ottawa is holding a "Britney Intervention," on Wednesday. A station press release says it’s concerned about the bad choices Spears’ has been making, including her alleged drinking, partying and her taste in men. Fans will record a message for Spears and send it to her.
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Come Sunday – Come Blue Monday – New Order Helpless – The Flirts She Has A Way – Bobby O Shoot Your Shot – Divine Lust Or Love – Malibu
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Once Is Not Enough – Oh Romeo West End Girls – Pet Shop Boys Billy The Mountain – Frank Zappa
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Love Attack – Tony Caso
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Call Any Vegetable – Frank Zappa
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"Roman S." <r…@att.net> wrote in message <news:tdeQc.387415$Gx4.281450@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>… > Call Any Vegetable – Frank Zappa
Midnight in Montgomery
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It was great, as usual. Wonderful presentations and workshops, and we all learned a lot. The most talked-about thing I heard of was the chocolate fountain at the reception! Put your CA strawberry on a stick and hold it under there for a coating. Yum! Some folks had said they’d seen it before at a wedding reception and that chocolate fountains and brides in huge white dresses do not mix well! Dr Korn’s article at http://scleroderma.org/ talks about the current research strategies he described for us in his presentation. The hotel staff was really wonderful to us. This wasn’t a coincidence – the GM’s mom has scleroderma! Bill Waranius was given the Lifetime Acheivement award posthumously, which was both very sad and very gratifying. I think all us "regulars" missed him and Fran. Speaking of that, more than half of the attendees were first-timers! The chapters gave over $300,000 to National for research over and above their usual yearly contribution. I know for my chapter this was made possible by a great walk-a-thon event this year in Youngstown (OH) so thanks to all there! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Doris wrote: >Like they say memory goes first-so I will try to remember to be at the chat >tonight. >Anything interesting from this year’s conference. >Doris
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Like they say memory goes first-so I will try to remember to be at the chat tonight. Anything interesting from this year’s conference. Doris
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